CES 2014: Air Conditioner Debuts as First Smart Appliance 'MFi Licensed' for iOS Compatibility

[Carlanga]

I know for a fact that this is not indeed the first home appliance that is certified by the MFI program.

The iPhone controlled TopBrewer coffee machine, which a friend of mine is working for, were the first in the world to introduce such a product. See here. TopBrewer.com

Sush Java maker. Your "friend" sure


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Anyways the actual news quoted inside the post did say the first ac and white applicanxe. Coffee makers are not

 

[powers74]

Wifi doesn't need internet to work locally.

Touche.

Sush Java maker. Your "friend" sure

I know someone who worked on Microsoft Surface (the original big table thing) why the rolleyes?

 

[winston1236]

No thanks, requires way too much brand commitment

 

[JAT]

As I stated in my correction, WIFI is a standard for connecting to the internet, not a standard for controlling appliances.

Why wouldn't the manufacturers you mentioned not be on board with this kind of standard? With a standard in place, manufacturers wouldn't have to worry about tying thier products to one specific technology and/or a companies OS.

Hmm. IMO, this is already done, maybe that's what I don't get from what you are saying. You can use most thermostats to control most furnaces and A/Cs, at least in this country. There are wiring and control standards already in place, even for multiple zones or multiple stage units. (and I'm only referring to residential) They just need to build access into an app and get the app connected. Hence: app developer and use wifi. (assuming your wifi is already connected to the internet)

Frankly, Nest shows that this is kinda pointless for HVAC systems. It does all this without wifi/internet access needed in the actual AC unit, because the standard controls are already there between the appliance and the Nest, wired to a spot in your house. Also, you still need thermostats placed in your house to measure the temp, why not put all this right at that point since it is already the control point?

 

[Parasprite]

The announcement never said such a thing. A coffee maker is not a "major appliance". It said:

Haier's Tianzun air conditioner is the first air conditioner and white good [major appliance] that is authorized by Apple's MFi program.
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You're clearly not very addicted to coffee.

 

[Antares]

I know for a fact that this is not indeed the first home appliance that is certified by the MFI program.

The iPhone controlled TopBrewer coffee machine, which a friend of mine is working for, were the first in the world to introduce such a product. See here. TopBrewer.com

Sure. However, a coffee machine is not a "white good." i.e. a major applicance like a fridge or stove. It's a small appliance. That's what they are claiming.

 

[crackbookpro]

Not really. GPS requires line-of-site. The limitation is on the satellite end, not the phone end.

"Not really" to what?

iPhones nor even a supposed-rumored iWatch would be able to harness a sole GPS chip... all smart phones with GPS capabilities in any market still utilize assisted-GPS chipset tech. Planes, Trains, & Automobiles(boats too) utilize sole GPS chips, well different than our phones chipsets.

The iWatch needs GPS chips that are ridiculous low in battery consumption, especially upon initial locating the device which is usually the battery killer, while also having the software resume extremely low battery usage during the GPS ping lag when not in use.

I still don't see an iWatch for a couple years. More like 2016... not 2014. iTV should be here in 4K sooner than later.

Qualcomm & Broadcom has to up the ante first...

 

[Traverse]

And here I just use the thermostat in the hallway.

 

[JAT]

"Not really" to what?

iPhones nor even a supposed-rumored iWatch would be able to harness a sole GPS chip... all smart phones with GPS capabilities in any market still utilize assisted-GPS chipset tech. Planes, Trains, & Automobiles(boats too) utilize sole GPS chips, well different than our phones chipsets.

You first indicated you wanted gps to replace agps in phones. (or watches) I said "not really" possible. Now you say it isn't possible. I guess we agree. Or there is an extra or missing "not" in one of your posts.

 

[crackbookpro]

You first indicated you wanted gps to replace agps in phones. (or watches) I said "not really" possible. Now you say it isn't possible. I guess we agree. Or there is an extra or missing "not" in one of your posts.

You need to open your eyes more... Re-read the post.

I am begging the ? to the audience - can Qualcomm make chipsets utilizing just GPS and not A-GPS?

This may be feasible sooner than later in the future... so that's why I "beg" the question now. If & when they do, this is a game changer - another reason why I beg the question at hand.

Do you understand? Also, your answer(s) make me believe you really don't have much further info on the subject matter. Re-read my post, then re-read yours again...

(By the way, Don't go 'broad' if you can't get into 'specifics'.)

 

[JAT]

You need to open your eyes more... Re-read the post.

I am begging the ? to the audience - can Qualcomm make chipsets utilizing just GPS and not A-GPS?

This may be feasible sooner than later in the future... so that's why I "beg" the question now. If & when they do, this is a game changer - another reason why I beg the question at hand.

Do you understand? Also, your answer(s) make me believe you really don't have much further info on the subject matter. Re-read my post, then re-read yours again...

(By the way, Don't go 'broad' if you can't get into 'specifics'.)

Wow, why not just jump right on my neck and bite my ** head off with misguided condescension. Since we're giving out advice, here's some: Stop assuming.

Of course they bloody well can make a chipset that is not assisted. There have been gps watches for years for outdoors use. But who cares? Phones and smart watches need to be used all sorts of places. Indoors, where gps doesn't work because it needs line-of-sight. (I did type the wrong 'site' before, oops)

I won't even be looking to see if you answer.

 

[crackbookpro]

Wow, why not just jump right on my neck and bite my ** head off with misguided condescension. Since we're giving out advice, here's some: Stop assuming.

Of course they bloody well can make a chipset that is not assisted. There have been gps watches for years for outdoors use. But who cares? Phones and smart watches need to be used all sorts of places. Indoors, where gps doesn't work because it needs line-of-sight. (I did type the wrong 'site' before, oops)

I won't even be looking to see if you answer.

Just blah... just blah... and no specifics once again.

(It would be wise to not look nor respond.. you're diggin'.)

 

[bigandtasty]

I'm a huge fan of my WEMO plugs. So, obviously, you can do stuff like this already without this certification, but anything that makes these kind of things easier and more widespread is good news to me.

Like the WEMO Butt Plug. Huge things for Twenty-14