CES 2017: Carrier to Launch HomeKit-Enabled 'Cor' Thermostat

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Carrier has announced it will be launching a HomeKit-enabled version of its Côr smart thermostat, first introduced at CES 2015, in early 2017.

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Côr is a Wi-Fi thermostat equipped with a touchscreen for controlling heating, cooling, and other settings. Beyond manual programming, the thermostat intelligently adapts to your home for greater efficiency, while still meeting ideal comfort levels. Côr also provides energy reports and customized energy saving tips.

Apple HomeKit support will enable the thermostat to be controlled remotely with the Home app on iOS 10 or Siri voice commands on iPhone and iPad, while users can set up HomeKit-enabled products to work together based on triggers. The thermostat can also be controlled remotely with the free Carrier Côr Thermostat app.

Côr's main competitors include the Nest Learning Thermostat, ecobee3, and Honeywell Lyric Round and Lyric T5.

Pricing has yet to be announced.

Article Link: CES 2017: Carrier to Launch HomeKit-Enabled 'Cor' Thermostat
 

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Cor sucks...at least there last version did. I have it and dislike it. Sure it's a wifi thermostat and it works decent but it has no smart features and the smartphone app is literally just the thermostat GUI put on your smartphone. Two weeks ago I get a update to the Cor app (First one since I got the thermostat over a year ago) and it's promising HomeKit support and Siri support with no mention new models. I am thrilled. I download the update and absolutely none of the features seem to be working. Look at the reviews for the app. It has one star. The thing is garbage and I don't have much faith for new one. I really hope they make the HomeKit stuff work on the first gen one. I strongly advise people to skip Cor.
 

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Please, can somebody please show me a single 'pretty' HomeKit enabled product?

I mean, is there some rule in the Apple HomeKit -guidelines that tells manufacturers they can't make pretty/appealing products or what. why is it so difficult to make products look like Beats, Nest and Sonos - see what they do good and go from there. Examples!

Installing this thermostat into your home will not only make your wife leave you, your dog probably doesn't want to go home after a walk either.
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.. Boooo Boo.. [Go away: this is 2007 blue Audi dashboard light into your house].
 

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I was going to jump on board with the Nest, but then I learned it was not HomeKit compatible. Kept me from purchasing.
Agreed. I have actually done some research into all the Homekit compatible ones and the Ecobee 3 seems to be the best right now. That's what I will be going with soon.

I like that it has temperature sensors you can put in each room. It will then keep the system running until it meets the requested temp for the room you are in rather than the temp of the hallway with the thermostat.
 

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I have a Nest thermostat and absolutely love it. For something as basic as a thermostat, I haven't seen a real use case yet where HomeKit would be beneficial to me (and that has nothing to do with having already invested in a non-HomeKit option). I can understand lighting and other products with instantaneous needs at varying times, but my thermostat is scheduled to do things when I typically need them done. If I'm coming home early or from vacation or something, tapping the app and turning the A/C back on or something isn't a big deal. Particularly when it takes some time for it to reach a given temp anyway. The fact that I can't say "Hey Siri, turn the air down to 72 degrees" and have her tell me she didn't quite get that 3 times before I remember the exact wording I have to use isn't really something I feel I'm lacking. Takes me the same or less time to tap it down in the Nest app.
 
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Cor sucks...at least there last version did. I have it and dislike it. Sure it's a wifi thermostat and it works decent but it has no smart features and the smartphone app is literally just the thermostat GUI put on your smartphone. Two weeks ago I get a update to the Cor app (First one since I got the thermostat over a year ago) and it's promising HomeKit support and Siri support with no mention new models. I am thrilled. I download the update and absolutely none of the features seem to be working. Look at the reviews for the app. It has one star. The thing is garbage and I don't have much faith for new one. I really hope they make the HomeKit stuff work on the first gen one. I strongly advise people to skip Cor.
If I understand my situation correctly, I have a Carrier HVAC and have been told that it is a proprietary system and I'm essentually stuck with Carrier thermostats. Am I incorrect? I'm still a little bit excited for this, but your experience is certainly a bummer.
 
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Carrier has announced it will be launching a HomeKit-enabled version of its Côr smart thermostat, first introduced at CES 2015, in early 2017.



Image: CNET

Côr is a Wi-Fi thermostat equipped with a touchscreen for controlling heating, cooling, and other settings. Beyond manual programming, the thermostat intelligently adapts to your home for greater efficiency, while still meeting ideal comfort levels. Côr also provides energy reports and customized energy saving tips.

Apple HomeKit support will enable the thermostat to be controlled remotely with the Home app on iOS 10 or Siri voice commands on iPhone and iPad, while users can set up HomeKit-enabled products to work together based on triggers. The thermostat can also be controlled remotely with the free Carrier Côr Thermostat app.

Côr's main competitors include the Nest Learning Thermostat, ecobee3, and Honeywell Lyric Round and Lyric T5.

Pricing has yet to be announced.

Article Link: CES 2017: Carrier to Launch HomeKit-Enabled 'Cor' Thermostat
What the hell is this 1980s poor blue lights with 80s digital split lines.. The last Cor was a nice led screen with real graphics not crap 80s digital writing... Well 2nd disappointment with carrier. they release the app that says is homekit supported now then its not.. now a new cor that looks like sh&^& The original cor can support homekit with a software update. it does not need any more hardware..... greedy little buggers.. you can enable homekit support on the first generation cor by running a app on your computer as a server and it allows access to homekit on the cor.. so WE KNOW ITS BS that a new cor would be needed.
 

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If I understand my situation correctly, I have a Carrier HVAC and have been told that it is a proprietary system and I'm essentually stuck with Carrier thermostats. Am I incorrect? I'm still a little bit excited for this, but your experience is certainly a bummer.
Unless you have the highest of high end Carrier systems or other home automation stuff from carrier you should be able to get other thermostats.
 

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I was going to jump on board with the Nest, but then I learned it was not HomeKit compatible. Kept me from purchasing.
The problem is that the Nest actually looks really good whereas all the HomeKit ones are ugly as sin. I decided to screw HomeKit and go with Nest largely due to the reviews, ease of use and yes, aesthetics. There are ways to get it to work with HomeKit if you want but I've never seen the need (although I have tried it out).

I do feel conflicted about HomeKit - it should work best with all my iDevices but I've always felt that Apple hasn't ever pushed it properly and all the things that do support it seem to be knock offs of other devices that existed first, are better designed and don't support HomeKit. E.g. Nest and Smarter Kettle and Coffee Maker.
 

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The problem is that the Nest actually looks really good whereas all the HomeKit ones are ugly as sin. I decided to screw HomeKit and go with Nest largely due to the reviews, ease of use and yes, aesthetics. There are ways to get it to work with HomeKit if you want but I've never seen the need (although I have tried it out).

I do feel conflicted about HomeKit - it should work best with all my iDevices but I've always felt that Apple hasn't ever pushed it properly and all the things that do support it seem to be knock offs of other devices that existed first, are better designed and don't support HomeKit. E.g. Nest and Smarter Kettle and Coffee Maker.
To me, I wouldn't be concerned if someone or my feelings if my theromostat is unappealing. I mean, Home Kit, Ecobee or Nest, does it really matter what someone thinks about it? It's not artwork or that hideous to conclude be conscious about it. If it works efficiently and properly, that's all I need with technology, and I'm speaking directly relating to a thermostat on my wall.
 

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I was going to jump on board with the Nest, but then I learned it was not HomeKit compatible. Kept me from purchasing.
If you have a Mac, PC or Raspberry Pi sitting around that can be always on you can install homebridge which allows you to control non-HomeKit devices through the Home app. I use it for my Nest, Kevo lock, and wink compatible powerstrip and it works great.
 

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If I understand my situation correctly, I have a Carrier HVAC and have been told that it is a proprietary system and I'm essentually stuck with Carrier thermostats. Am I incorrect? I'm still a little bit excited for this, but your experience is certainly a bummer.

i have a carrier havoc with 4 zones and it is not compatible with Nest or many other systems, even the hackers have not gotten it working. so I'm in the same boat as you and will look forward to this coming out and streaming my complicated home heating
 
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Please, can somebody please show me a single 'pretty' HomeKit enabled product?

I mean, is there some rule in the Apple HomeKit -guidelines that tells manufacturers they can't make pretty/appealing products or what. why is it so difficult to make products look like Beats, Nest and Sonos - see what they do good and go from there. Examples!

Installing this thermostat into your home will not only make your wife leave you, your dog probably doesn't want to go home after a walk either.
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.. Boooo Boo.. [Go away: this is 2007 blue Audi dashboard light into your house].
check out the ecobee3. it is years ahead of everyone else, looks great and actually works the way you think it should. i wish they would come out with a host of other homekit products like light switches and outlets. a full capacitive touch oled display light switch with dimming and motion sensing features would win this whole homekit game quickly.
 

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If I understand my situation correctly, I have a Carrier HVAC and have been told that it is a proprietary system and I'm essentually stuck with Carrier thermostats. Am I incorrect? I'm still a little bit excited for this, but your experience is certainly a bummer.
The answer is, it depends; but more than likely you could change. I have a fairly high end multi stage Bryant (aka Carrier; The Bryant/Carrier are basically 100% the same) which I got a few years ago after I received a settlement rebate for my old broken unit (and took advantage of the tax credits) which came with one of their awful proprietary touchscreen controllers. After seeing the cost of their wifi connected thermostat I ended up going with the Ecobee 3, however I did have to rewire the connection from the thermostat to the furnace as the Carrier system uses a special 4 wire setup and with the dual stages (on AC and Heat) plus humidifier I needed the full 8 wires. In addition I had to change the air conditioner setup from the proprietary wire connection to the standard HVAC setup (however this didn't require any new wires to be run, just rearranging them). So long as you have a single zone system there shouldn't be any reason you couldn't change thermostats fairly easily (though you do need one that supports multiple stages). As far as multiple zones go, I believe that carrier does have a zone controller that uses the standard thermostat controller connections (and would work with the Ecobee or any controller) however I believe that this is an option though, and that their proprietary system comes standard; I've also heard (though I can't confirm) that as a cost cutting method (and to be the worlds biggest dicks) Carrier is/has eliminated the "old fashioned" generic HVAC interface on some models requiring you to replace the controller board to an "upgraded" model to use a generic thermostat.

The easiest thing to do in order to know if you could change yours would just be to pop the cover off your furnace and see if you have the standard W/W2/Y/Y2/G/R/Comm connectors on your control board or just the 4 pins of the custom interface. If you have a newer Carrier system then it will 100% be connected using their custom 4 wire connector, but you still may very well have the other connectors. If you have the connectors then you, at worst, would just have to pull a new, multi-strand wire. In the end, with mine, I was able to move to the Ecobee without loosing any functionality apart from the diagnostics codes (which does nothing for me) and the manual fan only mode speed control (however there is still a way to set it manually). The Ecobee does a much better job then their awful controller ever did and is much more energy efficient with things like away mode and changing to the different sensors depending upon where I am in the house.
 
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I was going to jump on board with the Nest, but then I learned it was not HomeKit compatible. Kept me from purchasing.
I've been super happy with the Ecobee, if you're looking for the most functional, and good looking thermostat, that's the one to get.
 

Spanky Deluxe

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To me, I wouldn't be concerned if someone or my feelings if my theromostat is unappealing. I mean, Home Kit, Ecobee or Nest, does it really matter what someone thinks about it? It's not artwork or that hideous to conclude be conscious about it. If it works efficiently and properly, that's all I need with technology, and I'm speaking directly relating to a thermostat on my wall.
Thermostats work best when they are on a wall in the middle of rooms, not hidden away. They're on show so I want mine not to look like ass. The old white ones were ugly but could largely blend into a wall. The Nest's competitors all try to look snazzy but end up looking ugly as sin whereas the Nest actually looks good on the wall. It's the only thermostat that has a positive impact on the design of a room rather than a negative one.
 

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Thermostats work best when they are on a wall in the middle of rooms, not hidden away.
Exactly, and the only one to fix that is Ecobee with their wireless sensors. One thermostat can never cover the whole house no matter how well it's placed. At some point the thermostat will always be in the wrong place. When the thermostat is supposed to detect if I'm at home this is a major problem. Installing a new thermostat in the same place is difficult enough for most people, are you seriously suggesting they need to make sure it's in the optimal location as well?

As far as design goes, I won't argue that the Nest looks slightly better, but because of that and its small size it's harder to operate and requires the wall it's installed on to be either in perfect shape under the old thermostat or else fixed and well painted/blended with the old paint. This means that for the vast majority of installations the Nest will look much WORSE not better then the competition since the larger size of the Ecobee makes it more likely to cover problem/holes which would be exposed otherwise.

On top of that, I know it's subjective, but I would hardly say the Ecobee3 (or even for the most part, this Carrier one) is ugly. It's a black slab with rounded corners and a white back...
 
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