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CES 2017: Elgato Introduces Thunderbolt 3 Dock With Dual 4K Display Support

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Elgato today announced the launch of a new Thunderbolt 3 Dock designed to work with the new 13 and 15-inch MacBook Pro models Apple introduced in October of 2016.

Elgato's Thunderbolt 3 Dock features three USB 3.0 ports, a Gigabit Ethernet port, two Thunderbolt USB-C ports, 1 DisplayPort with DisplayPort 1.2 support, a 3.5mm headphone jack, and a 3.5mm microphone input jack.

"Apple's sleek new Mac notebooks deserve a clean workspace that's free of hubs and dongles." said Markus Fest, General Manager of Elgato, "With the new Elgato Thunderbolt 3Dock, it's literally one cable and you're all set."
The Dock, which provides up to 85 watts of power, can charge a MacBook Pro while also providing multiple ports for connecting displays and accessories. It can drive one 5K display at 60Hz through the Thunderbolt 3 port or two 4K displays simultaneously at 60Hz, using both the DisplayPort and one of the USB-C ports. USB-C accessories will be powered with up to 15W and the USB A ports will charge an iPhone or an iPad at full speed.

- DisplayPort output: up to 4096 x 2160 pixels at 60 Hz

- Thunderbolt 3 output: up to 5120 x 2880 pixels at 60 Hz

- Dual displays: up to 4096 x 2160 pixels at 60 Hz each

- 4K60 over HDMI 2.0 supported using active adapters (not included) via USB-C and DisplayPort
The Thunderbolt 3 Dock will be available at the end of January 2017 and will be priced at $299.95, a price tag that includes a 1.6 ft Thunderbolt 3 cable.

For its HomeKit-enabled Eve line of products, Elgato is also showing off the Eve Extend and the Eve Aqua, but is not making formal product announcements at this time. The Eve Extend is designed to connect to a local Wi-Fi network and act as a bridge for Bluetooth-based accessories in its range, while the Eve Aqua is a wireless irrigation controller that connects directly to a faucet and hose.

Eve Aqua (left) and Eve Extend (right)

The Eve Extend can be positioned anywhere in the house where there's poor Bluetooth signal, and is useful for areas where the Apple TV 4, which allows HomeKit-enabled Bluetooth products to be controlled when away from home, doesn't reach. Eve Extend is powered via micro-USB.

The Eve Aqua is designed to make watering plants "easy and fun." It runs on batteries and features a splash proof enclosure that's the size of three packs of cigarettes. Eve Aqua is still in development and it's not yet clear if it will work with HomeKit.

Pricing and release dates for the Eve Extend and the Eve Aqua have not been shared by Elgato.

Article Link: CES 2017: Elgato Introduces Thunderbolt 3 Dock With Dual 4K Display Support
 

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$300? So this dock costs about as much as a mid tower desktop computer. and has no HDMI and to get it requires an active adapter which likely then needs its own power source and will not be cheap I am guessing
 
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300$ and they can only give you a 1.6 foot cable?

yeah at $300 i am sure the margin is just so tight that they wouldn't afford to throw in another couple feet of wire that would have cost them like 5 cents
 
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$300? So this dock costs about as much as a mid tower desktop computer. and has no HDMI and to get it requires an active adapter which likely then needs its own power source and will not be cheap I am guessing
USB-C, DP, and mDP to HDMI 2.0 active adapters take their power from the port, and they cost around $30 each.
 
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yeah at $300 i am sure the margin is just so tight that they wouldn't afford to throw in another couple feet of wire that would have cost them like 5 cents

Thunderbolt cables are expensive. They have chips in them. OWC's dock only comes with a .5m cable.

OWC's dock still looks better. More ports, $25 less (at least with preorder), space gray. Not sure if it does a full 85w though.
 
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This is a lot for a dock. These people must be thinking something like, ''if people are paying that much for these new MacBook Pros, then a €300 dock will seem like a bargain.''
 
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Thunderbolt cables are expensive. They have chips in them. OWC's dock only comes with a .5m cable.

OWC's dock still looks better. More ports, $25 less (at least with preorder), space gray. Not sure if it does a full 85w though.

The chips are in the connector...you can add more wire for cheap since no matter how long the wire is it still has the same 2 costly connectors
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USB-C, DP, and mDP to HDMI 2.0 active adapters take their power from the port, and they cost around $30 each.

Good to know, still adds $30 to the cost to get HDMI. I could be wrong but it seems like HDMI would be a better port to have on here than displayport
 
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The chips are in the connector...you can add more wire for cheap since no matter how long the wire is it still has the same 2 costly connectors
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Good to know, still adds $30 to the cost to get HDMI. I could be wrong but it seems like HDMI would be a better port to have on here than displayport

40Gbps can be supported up to a maximum of 50cm without chips.

HDMI 2.0 is weaker than DP 1.2, they made the right choice.
 
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This is a lot for a dock. These people must be thinking something like, ''if people are paying that much for these new MacBook Pros, then a €300 dock will seem like a bargain.''

This is in line with the other full Thunderbolt 3 docks announced and Thunderbolt 2 docks before it. For whatever reason (Intel licensing?) Thunderbolt stuff is expensive.
 
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Why are these things sooo ridiculously expensive? I dont see why it should cost more than a hundred bucks
 
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I would prefer only 6", it plugs in to your computer, how far away do you keep your doc?

I would prefer a really long one so I could hide the dock out of sight behind the desk. I'm probably going to get the OWC dock and I don't think its .5m cable will even be long enough for my desk because I use a Rain Design stand, and I'd want the cable to route underneath it.
 
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I have the Elgato and the OWC Thunderbolt 2 docks. The OWC has more ports and the audio out has less interference. The Elgato was cheaper and works in Windows and came with a short cable.

Given that the OWC Thunderbolt 3 version works in Windows it'd be hard to justify this dock for the price. It also has a combo port for a headphone jack rather than two separate ports which, at least for me, is preferable.
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I would prefer only 6", it plugs in to your computer, how far away do you keep your doc?

Depends on the desk. I keep one of my docks right under a Rain stand and use an 18" cable to wrap around from the back. However, at my other station I have a Mac Mini and another stand on the opposite side of the desk so I have to use a longer cable to move from side to side (I use it like a KVM).

I used to hide the OWC behind my monitor stand and so I needed something much longer. There are lots of reasons to use a longer cable.
 
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I now realize it would be better if the Startech TB2 dock and the CalDigit TS2 had DP 1.2 connectors instead of HDMI connectors. They would be simpler and cheaper to build and not limited to 4K@30Hz, but support 4K@75Hz.
 
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I have the Elgato and the OWC Thunderbolt 2 docks. The OWC has more ports and the audio out has less interference. The Elgato was cheaper and works in Windows and came with a short cable.

Given that the OWC Thunderbolt 3 version works in Windows it'd be hard to justify this dock for the price. It also has a combo port for a headphone jack rather than two separate ports which, at least for me, is preferable.
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Depends on the desk. I keep one of my docks right under a Rain stand and use an 18" cable to wrap around from the back. However, at my other station I have a Mac Mini and another stand on the opposite side of the desk so I have to use a longer cable to move from side to side (I use it like a KVM).

I used to hide the OWC behind my monitor stand and so I needed something much longer. There are lots of reasons to use a longer cable.


The cool thing about USB is you can buy a longer cable if your set up needs.
 
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The cool thing about USB is you can buy a longer cable if your set up needs.

Yes. I'd actually prefer no cable shipped with the option to add on the price.

40Gbps TB3 cables + charge are bloody expensive though. Now I know what audiophiles paying for crystal HDMI must feel like (only TB3 isn't THAT expensive and it is actually an improvement, even if it doesn't help with those warm, rich tones, lol).
 
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The chips are in the connector...you can add more wire for cheap since no matter how long the wire is it still has the same 2 costly connectors

You can make a TB3 cable up to 0.5m with cheap passive (no chips) connectors and still get the full 40Gbps bandwidth.

Why are these things sooo ridiculously expensive? I dont see why it should cost more than a hundred bucks

A TB3 dock is fairly complex - its not like a USB hub or "port replicator": you need the TB3 controller, all the gubbins to handle TB3/USB-C passthrough and charging, a PCIe bus, a PCIe USB3 controller and either USB or PCIe controllers for ethernet and sound...

Add to that relatively small volume sales (which is a big factor in the cost of producing electronics) - TB docks have never really hit the big time and, with USB-C, a lot of people are going to be happy with cheaper USB-C docks (if you need a 5k display or a second 4k@60Hz you can always plug it straight in).

That said, this looks suspiciously like the Belkin dock in a slightly different case.
 
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This is why the docking feature of LG's 5K display is a killer feature.
 
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