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CES 2023: Matter-Enabled Eve Energy, Eve Door and Window, and Eve Motion Launching in March

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Eve Systems today announced that Eve Door and Window, Eve Energy, and Eve Motion accessories with built-in Matter certification will be available for purchase in March 2023. The accessories will work with Matter out of the box, with no firmware updates required.

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To be clear, Eve Systems has already rolled out Matter support for these devices, but if the accessories are purchased now, an update is required to add the Matter integration. Starting in March, Matter will be available out of the box.

Matter-compatible smart home products are able to work with HomeKit, Google Home, Amazon Alexa, and Samsung SmartThings thanks to the unified Matter technology.

Eve today also announced that it is adding Eve MotionBlinds for Honeycomb and Venetian blinds from Coulisse, allowing for more HomeKit-enabled design options. Eve MotionBlinds are also set to get Matter integration later in the quarter.

The new Matter-certified Eve Door and Window, Eve Energy, and Eve Motion will be available from the Eve website and from Amazon on March 28.

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Simon89 said:
I have an Eve Energy that I bought a few years back, how will I know it has been updated to support Matter?
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If the Eve Energy is on firmware 3.1, it's updated for Matter.

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I'm in the Eve Home beta test for Matter (you have to sign up on their website), and basically if you don't need Matter support (i.e. you only use HomeKit), I wouldn't recommend updating to it. I only updated 1 of my 3 eve energy plugs, and probably won't update the other two.

Basically, when you update any Homekit device to Matter, it will generate a new QR code since Matter codes are 11 digits as opposed to 8 digits for HomeKit. That means that the old Homekit QR code on the device itself no longer works, and you'll need the new Matter QR code that was generated during the firmware update if you ever want to remove the device from HomeKit and re-add it later.

Here's a redacted version of the Matter QR code that was generated by the Eve app for the one device I updated. Basically it has the device serial number on it, so you can match it up to the device you're trying to add in the future, but also I ended up writing the new 11 digit Matter code on the back of the device with a sharpie in case I ever misplace the new QR code since you can add devices to Homekit with the numerical code.

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ck2875 said:
FWIW, I have three of their plugs and none of them make any audible sound (with the exception of the click sound when you toggle them on and off). You might want to reach out to them about that if those devices are in warranty.
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Interesting, and thanks for your reply. I actually already did and they sent me a replacement and same problem. So that’s been my experience. Glad to hear yours has been better though.
 
ck2875 said:
If the Eve Energy is on firmware 3.1, it's updated for Matter.

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I'm in the Eve Home beta test for Matter (you have to sign up on their website), and basically if you don't need Matter support (i.e. you only use HomeKit), I wouldn't recommend updating to it. I only updated 1 of my 3 eve energy plugs, and probably won't update the other two.

Basically, when you update any Homekit device to Matter, it will generate a new QR code since Matter codes are 11 digits as opposed to 8 digits for HomeKit. That means that the old Homekit QR code on the device itself no longer works, and you'll need the new Matter QR code that was generated during the firmware update if you ever want to remove the device from HomeKit and re-add it later.

Here's a redacted version of the Matter QR code that was generated by the Eve app for the one device I updated. Basically it has the device serial number on it, so you can match it up to the device you're trying to add in the future, but also I ended up writing the new 11 digit Matter code on the back of the device with a sharpie in case I ever misplace the new QR code since you can add devices to Homekit with the numerical code.

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Interesting. So if I update an existing device to matter and lose the new code, I have bricked the device if I need to re-add it?
 
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Christoffee said:
Interesting. So if I update an existing device to matter and lose the new code, I have bricked the device if I need to re-add it?
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That was my takeaway from it. Which is why I wrote the new 11 digit code on the back of the actual plug since you can add devices to HomeKit using only that numerical code if you can't scan the QR code. There were a ton of warnings in the Eve Home when you update the firmware (its opt in and not automatic) and it's generating the new code. And they make you scan the new code during the update to verify that you've saved it somewhere (either a second device or a printout of it).


Relatedly, I use the HomePass app to store all of my HomeKit codes in a central location. I'm hoping they'll add support for Matter codes in the future, but I saved the code as a custom text field in that app, then added the matter qr code to my notes app, photos app, and documents folders just to have it saved in multiple locations.
 
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throwaway572937 said:
Interesting, and thanks for your reply. I actually already did and they sent me a replacement and same problem. So that’s been my experience. Glad to hear yours has been better though.
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I have 2 Eve Energy plugs and they don't emit any pitch. I've read some user reviews mentioning it, though (on Amazon, if I remember correctly).

For the record, mine are European models.

Besides, since the recent introduction of the HomeKit upgraded architecture I noticed an improvement in terms of reliability. Being Bluetooth devices, before the upgrade their response times were sometimes lacking reliability.
 
I'm still not really seeing a benefit of matter/thread support. Homekit isn't deep or reliable enough to run a proper smart home from. It's more like a front end for a dashboard and siri control. Until the likes of Hubitat and somehow HA devices support it and then ALL Zigbee, Z-Wave and Wifi devices up date for it, it doesn't make any difference.
 
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But what I don’t understand is that they don’t say anything about when the Matter update for Energy, Door and Motion will be available for public. It is still an early access program.

And I actually bricked my Eve Door after the firmware update so I won’t recommend it to anyone. It goes well for most people but I can’t use my sensor anymore. Luckily they’ll send me a new one though, but still waiting for it.
 
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It would be nice if they could redesign door and window to actually fit most doors and windows and not be such a chunk…
 
These smart home companies are actually dumb enough to put LED lights on certain switches/outlets. God damn they’re so stupid.

No one wants to see an annoying ****ing light on their god damn plug or switch. Same stupidity as router makers putting flashing lights on all of them. I mean truly unbelievable
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
These smart home companies are actually dumb enough to put LED lights on certain switches/outlets. God damn they’re so stupid.

No one wants to see an annoying ****ing light on their god damn plug or switch. Same stupidity as router makers putting flashing lights on all of them. I mean truly unbelievable
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Do some research before you start yelling. You can just turn the LED off permanently on Eve Energy so FYI
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
These smart home companies are actually dumb enough to put LED lights on certain switches/outlets. God damn they’re so stupid.

No one wants to see an annoying ****ing light on their god damn plug or switch. Same stupidity as router makers putting flashing lights on all of them. I mean truly unbelievable
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If it doesn’t make bleepy noises and flash insanely bright LEDs at you, then what are you paying for???
 
DenniSundaY said:
Do some research before you start yelling. You can just turn the LED off permanently on Eve Energy so FYI
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Numerous ones do not have options to turn them off. It’s embarrassingly stupid to incorporate them in the first place, and they should absolutely be off by default, if they are stupid enough to incorporate them.
 
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