CHALLENGE Power your mac (from power off) From the Web, WOL? A ROBOT?

Discussion in 'macOS' started by deorg, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. deorg macrumors 6502

    deorg

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    This is sick, really sick
    I just want to turn my mac on from the web (its easy tu turn it off), I have a macbook air, and I have a iMac 24 inch new ones.

    I want to get online from x place around the world or from my local starbuks and TURN my imac on, from poweroff, this is really easy on a PC using WAKE ON LAN, but for a not disclosed reason THIS CANNOT BE done on my TWO thousand Dollar imac.
    But its cheap easy on my 200 dollar pentium 4.

    THINK outside the box, its there any device that can internaly make this stuff turn on OR is there any aparatus that can push the POWER ON button on the back of the imac (LOL)

    Remember Its not hibernate or those thins its just plugged into the wall.
    I have internet in the room of the mac, there the posiblity tu run ethernet cable.
    IDEAS !!!
    THANKS
     
  2. portent macrumors 6502a

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    All Macs support wake-on-lan packets, but the Apple interpretation of "wake" is quite literal: it means "wake from sleep."

    If you get out of the habit of shutting your Mac down and put it to sleep instead, you should be fine. Usually, you only need to shut a Mac down if you will be moving it.
     
  3. jamesarm97 macrumors 65816

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    I also think that WOL does not work with Wifi (I could be wrong). I am pretty sure I had to use an ethernet cable to do this.

    - James
     
  4. deorg thread starter macrumors 6502

    deorg

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    Yeah Ive been reading and YES it has to be to be hardwired...
    I was thinking (outside the box) and makein a internet control push toy, that can be program thru the web kinda like lego mindstorms.
     
  5. kolax macrumors G3

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    Until you are controlling your iMac and seeing out your iSight camera... and suddenly the Lego Mindstorm model you put together activates and pushes your iMac onto the floor ;)
     
  6. Consultant macrumors G5

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  7. spatlese44 macrumors 6502

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    How about the "Restart automatically after power failure" in the energy panel in conjunction with an X10 based power switch with web based control?

    Yes, complicated, but you asked.
     
  8. hwojtek macrumors 6502a

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    Data loss risk. The system will need to be shutdown violently in order to be restarted using such a power switch.
    Much nicer way: combine 'sleep' with remote WOL of an Ethernet-wired Mac.
     
  9. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Forgot to mention, this is what I have.
    - server actually running 24/7. But you can sleep it.

    In case of power failure:

    - Set restart after power failure.
    - Set it to start every day, so downtime is less than 24 hours even with power failure and no one around to start it.
    - Have UPS and controlled shut down when battery is low.
     
  10. deorg thread starter macrumors 6502

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    So we still dont have a winner
    HWOJTEK: its a very good idea but he whole idea is to start it from the OFF state, its possible (a buggy possible) to wake from sleep/hibernate but STill not from complete power off...


    SPATLESE44: its a very goog idea, but it really doesnt turn the mac ON, from power off.. Its a very good restart Idea.

    COME ON GUYS,
    A WHOLE PERUVIAN comunity with expensive macs are eagerly waiting for some solution...

    IF you really think about it, its just a button that its controlled from web so it an apply presure on the ON button...
    Lego mindstorms Its just an Idea and KILAMITE I dont think that a toy that weights les than 50 grams its going to acutally push out of the desk a metal computer LOL (I dont see that happening)
     
  11. Mal macrumors 603

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    Why are you so dead-set against actually waking up the computer from sleep instead of booting cold? It's a far better solution because the computer is then instantly available, and it's also a solution that's well documented and highly recommended. Seriously, I think we're dealing more with a case of unrealistic expectations than a deficiency in any software product. Maybe you just need to start realizing that your first instinct is probably the wrong one in this case.

    jW
     
  12. angelwatt Moderator emeritus

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    If the machine is off, what exactly is going to run to turn on the machine? Something about common sense.

    A robot would work easily enough if you could program it and it was connected to the internet or maybe a satellite connection, but such a solution is likely beyond the scope of this thread.
     
  13. deorg thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You maybe right, Im no one to contradict your point of view, but, ITs a simple thing

    WHY A TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR IMAC CANT DO IT and a 200 DOLAR PC CAN...

    thats the question...



     
  14. nutman macrumors regular

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    are you just being obnoxious for the sake of proving a point? if you don't really need it, and have no real justification for it, i don't see why go through all the trouble to make a huge ruckus. why don't you ask why your 2000 dollar imac can't be ugly? now isn't that an intriguing question?
     
  15. old-wiz macrumors G3

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    The PC BIOS implements Wake-on LAN via ACPI .

    Wikipedia explains this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface

    and

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN

    In order for wake on lan to function, the computer needs to be in soft-off state, where some things are still running, such as the LAN connection. this is not quit the same as a full power off aka Mechanical Off, where only the system clock runs.

    Perhaps the EFI doesn't implement wake-on LAN when the system is in soft-off (NOT sleep) state or Apple simply decided they wanted to conserve power by not implementing it this way and only do it from G1 (sleeping). While the power required is quite small, it is not zero.

    You are pretty much out of luck unless you can dig into the EFI interface and hack it.
     
  16. yas2253 macrumors newbie

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    deorg,

    If you Google "web controlled remote power switch" or "phone controlled remote power switch" you will find devices that sound like they would allow you to power on your imac via a web connection or a telephone call. Some of them are a little pricey such as the iBoot (around $275--possibly less on ebay).

    I am researching these myself to be able to remotely restart my home PowerMac if it has "frozen" (as it occasionally does) and will not respond to remote control commands from my traveling laptop. In such instances, I need something that will power off the computer then power it back on again (even though it is "bad" for the mac and risks data/file corruption, etc).

    It appears you can cut power, restart power, or force reboot via internet commands (or telephone in some cases) to these devices which have ethernet ports and/or telephone ports. Note: the software that comes with them appear to be geared for the
    Windows PC world, and I haven't actually come across a report by someone who says they have actually used it with a Mac yet.

    I hope this is helpful. My apologies if I've misunderstood what you are looking for.
     

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