Chances of new ML build at WWDC?

frederikolafsen

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I was trying to look up WWDC history to find out how likely it is that Apple will release a newer, and more feature-complete build of ML to developers. Any ideas? I could see Apple revealing new features or apps for ML at WWDC and hopefully devs will get a chance to use them the same day.
 

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Hasn't apple been regular with releasing ML builds? If so I don't see the need for a special WWDC build since they're giving the developers builds as they see the need.
 

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They ARE going to release a new preview of Mountain Lion at WWDC ;) They did it last year, they'll do it this year. And this build will probably include Retina display support ;)
 

pdjudd

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They ARE going to release a new preview of Mountain Lion at WWDC ;) They did it last year, they'll do it this year.
Very likley.

And this build will probably include Retina display support ;)
Very unlikely - they aren’t going to be adding anything major to a DP this late in the game. There just isn’t enough of that there right now.
 

nuckinfutz

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Count on it.

Will ML go to the same 13.0.0 Darwin kernel as iOS 6.0?

I'm sure the stuff that couldn't be put in because iOS 6 wasn't announced
will be put in.
 

frederikolafsen

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Count on it.

Will ML go to the same 13.0.0 Darwin kernel as iOS 6.0?

I'm sure the stuff that couldn't be put in because iOS 6 wasn't announced
will be put in.
What sorts of improvements can be anticipated if Darwin is upgraded to 13.0.0?

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Hasn't apple been regular with releasing ML builds? If so I don't see the need for a special WWDC build since they're giving the developers builds as they see the need.
Sure, they've been regular about releasing builds. But that's not the point. I am wondering if they will release a build that contains additional features or apps (unannounced as of yet) during WWDC.
 

nuckinfutz

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What sorts of improvements can be anticipated if Darwin is upgraded to 13.0.0?

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Sure, they've been regular about releasing builds. But that's not the point. I am wondering if they will release a build that contains additional features or apps (unannounced as of yet) during WWDC.
I'm trying to find out as well since there's a dearth of info about iOS 6.0.
 

frederikolafsen

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For those of you following this thread, if Apple were to introduce new features in Mountain Lion at WWDC, what do you think they would be? I think it's a safe bet to say that dictation will be included.
 

nuckinfutz

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  • Maps (needs iOS 6.0 announcement)
  • Siri (needs iOS 6.0 announcement)
  • iCloud Documents in the Cloud
  • Airplay (needs iOS 6.0 announcements)
 

JohnDoe98

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Very likley.


Very unlikely - they aren’t going to be adding anything major to a DP this late in the game. There just isn’t enough of that there right now.
The previous build already had hiDPI mode added in and a bunch of icons updated to Retina quality. So to finalize the Retina support they would just need to keep adding more and more icons at a rate that will have them all updated by GM time and ML should be Retina rdy.
 

monkeyKing

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I'm not sure we'll see any new features, maybe not on the scale of those already shown.

I do hope it's released soon, but I can wait if they need to iron out stuff to make it suitable for release.

In terms of a new build. I reckon if it's not released on Monday then we'll see a new dev. build alongside iOS 6.
 

pdjudd

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The previous build already had hiDPI mode added in and a bunch of icons updated to Retina quality. So to finalize the Retina support they would just need to keep adding more and more icons at a rate that will have them all updated by GM time and ML should be Retina rdy.
I don’t think there would be any reason to do that though unless there was an iron lock on retna screens which is certainly not guaranteed whatsoever. Besides, there would be a lot more than icons that need updating. Sorry, they may be putting the seeds in, but they aren’t going full out unless they can cut the fat somewhere else.. I don’t see it.
 

JohnDoe98

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I don’t think there would be any reason to do that though unless there was an iron lock on retna screens which is certainly not guaranteed whatsoever. Besides, there would be a lot more than icons that need updating. Sorry, they may be putting the seeds in, but they aren’t going full out unless they can cut the fat somewhere else.. I don’t see it.
Other than icons, what needs updating that isn't covered by the HiDPI mode in ML?
 

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Oh there will most certainly be a new build released during that week, probably the last major beta (DP 4) before final RTM. I'm sure there will also be a tiny update build released a few weeks after DP 4 though, just like there was for Lion.
 

pdjudd

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Other than icons, what needs updating that isn't covered by the HiDPI mode in ML?
Other graphics I suppose. OSX is more than just the icons. The fact that Apple hasn’t done it yet indicates to me that either there is a lot of items or they are doing limited work with them.

I believe HiDPI is already in Lion to a limited degree - it’s not a secret that they have done it already. I wouldn’t look much into it without some more overt evidence.
 

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We'll probably see a GM build at WWDC. Don't count on it having many more features than current builds though. Things like dictation/Siri will almost certainly be for 2012 Macs due to hardware limitations.
 

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We'll probably see a GM build at WWDC. Don't count on it having many more features than current builds though. Things like dictation/Siri will almost certainly be for 2012 Macs due to hardware limitations.
We'll see a build, but it won't be the GM.
 

frederikolafsen

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I just have this feeling that Tim Cook could say "we want to talk about 10 new features of Mountain Lion..." and then unveil some new ones. I don't know - maybe it's wishful thinking.
 

nuckinfutz

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I just have this feeling that Tim Cook could say "we want to talk about 10 new features of Mountain Lion..." and then unveil some new ones. I don't know - maybe it's wishful thinking.
Because they may announce iOS 6.0 tentpole features there is a chance that some things are added to Mountain Lion that couldn't be divulged before because that would have leaked iOS 6.0 features.

I eagerly await monday.
 

frederikolafsen

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Because they may announce iOS 6.0 tentpole features there is a chance that some things are added to Mountain Lion that couldn't be divulged before because that would have leaked iOS 6.0 features.

I eagerly await monday.
Same here, buddy. Should be a good show.
 

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We will most certainly not see any golden master version of OS X Mountain Lion at WWDC'12. Mountain Lion is far from being ready for prime time, yet.

I do hope we'd get some newly announced features though, as Mountain Lion doesn't pack a whole lot. But I guess it's supposed to be a maintenance / optimisation release thus not packing a hell of a lot of features.

If Apple is aiming for a mid-summer release (which basically means July 2012) adding brand new untested features at this date seems somewhat awkward if they are hoping for a mid-summer release. But who knows.
 

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If Apple is aiming for a mid-summer release (which basically means July 2012) adding brand new untested features at this date seems somewhat awkward if they are hoping for a mid-summer release. But who knows.
They are aiming for a late-summer release.
 
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