Other Change my view: If you want to take ProRes video at all, you’d be an idiot not to get the 1 Terabyte iPhone 14 Pro/Max

[phill85]

…and that’s coming from me, the owner of a 13 Pro 512GB iPhone. Your phone will fill up INCREDIBLY fast with ProRes video. This past November I took a ProRes video of the changing of the guard in Washington, D.C. at the tomb of the unknown soldier, and my 9 minute video was over 51 gigabytes. Also, for people who have kids, or travel… those once in a lifetime experiences… are you not going to record them at the highest quality possibly available?? Just saying if you don’t max your storage, you were warned!

 

[JPack]

ProRes footage isn't intended to stay on your iPhone, but rather be uploaded to your computer for editing. So yes, it consumes a lot of space, but nobody is expected to keep ProRes video on their phone in their collection of photos. On a 6-inch display, you can't see any difference.

 

[Menel]

If you want "to record them at the highest quality possibly available??"
You would be looking at different equipment entirely, not from Apple.

 

[Gix1k]

Well, you can take the vid and transfer it directly to a Mac.

 

[phill85]

ProRes footage isn't intended to stay on your iPhone, but rather be uploaded to your computer for editing. So yes, it consumes a lot of space, but nobody is expected to keep ProRes video on their phone in their collection of photos. On a 6-inch display, you can't see any difference.

Sure, except we all know how fast you can get it off of your iPhone….

 

[mikeb13]

…and that’s coming from me, the owner of a 13 Pro 512GB iPhone. Your phone will fill up INCREDIBLY fast with ProRes video. This past November I took a ProRes video of the changing of the guard in Washington, D.C. at the tomb of the unknown soldier, and my 9 minute video was over 51 gigabytes. Also, for people who have kids, or travel… those once in a lifetime experiences… are you not going to record them at the highest quality possibly available?? Just saying if you don’t max your storage, you were warned!

That would take forever to transfer to a computer using lightning USB 2.0 speeds.

 

[JPack]

Sure, except we all know how fast you can get it off of your iPhone….

Agreed and that's another issue. For anybody who doesn't intend to offload videos from the iPhone for editing, ProRes is completely pointless.

 

[phill85]

Yeah. I think the best practice is have enough storage that you can wait awhile before you have to offload via the cloud/while it uploads to the cloud in order to free up storage. I had several half terabyte iPhones before my 13 pro, and it was the first one that felt legitimately not enough storage-wise

 

[zakarhino]

Using ProRes for family videos and long 9 minute captures of stuff is kinda overkill to be honest. The main advantage of ProRes is the editing headroom. Most of the differences you're seeing in quality between ProRes and standard video capture in the stock app comes from compression. To each their own but I may have a solution for you:

If you use a third party video app (e.g ProCamera) that allows you to control compression amounts and you set it to lossless compression you'll quickly see a big jump up in video quality without the gigantic ProRes file sizes. Lossless compression videos are bigger in size but nowhere near as big as ProRes. It's worth looking into, there's a thread about it on here somewhere with real life examples. By default Apple's video app compresses video a ton which is why you get that very detectable "smartphone look." Videos I've taken with lossless compression are mostly indistinguishable from ProRes for casual use.

As an example if a lossy video captured with the stock app is around 100MB, the ProRes video might be 2GB+ whereas the lossless video might be around 200MB.

I can see why 1TB is useful but you really don't need it for max video quality via the lossless capture method in casual contexts because everything gets uploaded to the cloud anyway. Even 256GB is enough for lossless video capture so long as you have a large iCloud plan and you connect to WiFi regularly enough to offload video to the cloud. You should be using ProRes if you want to create an edited video with lots of color adjustments for a stylized look.

 

[ian87w]

lso, for people who have kids, or travel… those once in a lifetime experiences… are you not going to record them at the highest quality possibly available?? Just saying if you don’t max your storage, you were warned!

Suit yourself.

HEVC works fine for me. What's important is the experience being recorded, not the file format.

 

[Rafterman]

I noticed a weird thing. I have a 1TB model, with 55GB free (lots of media). I was playing with the camera formats, but I cannot select ProRes for video - it tells me I don't have any storage and shows me zero minutes. But at 7GB a minute, 55GB free should be enough for a few minutes. Anyone else see this? Is there a hidden amount minimum needed?

 

[Rafterman]

OK, I see you need at least 100GB free to record ProRes, even though the math doesn't work out.

 

[M.Rizk]

I personally couldn't care less about ProRes. Not till it does 4K 60 FPS at least. I am happy with 256 GB and 2TB iCloud. I always have an unlimited data plan as I abuse cellular data anywhere I travel so any video I take is on iCloud and off my phone in a matter of minutes.

 

[Luba]

I personally couldn't care less about ProRes. Not till it does 4K 60 FPS at least. I am happy with 256 GB and 2TB iCloud. I always have an unlimited data plan as I abuse cellular data anywhere I travel so any video I take is on iCloud and off my phone in a matter of minutes.

You take a video and almost immediately you upload to iCloud? Does it take long to upload, a few minutes? How do you upload a pic or video to iCloud while getting it off your phone? “Share” to iCloud, then delete? Thanks in advance.

 

[M.Rizk]

You take a video and almost immediately you upload to iCloud? Does it take long to upload, a few minutes? How do you upload a pic or video to iCloud while getting it off your phone? “Share” to iCloud, then delete? Thanks in advance.

Optimize storage option under Settings > Photos > iCloud.

iOS will auto upload any photo or video you take, save or download to your phone to iCloud. iOS will automatically delete the local copy leaving only a shortcut if your phone needs to do something that requires more storage right now or just when it sees you not opening these photos/videos anymore.

How does the shortcut look like? These photos/videos will still show in your photo library like any other but when you try to open them you’ll find a buffering like circle by the bottom right corner as it loads it from iCloud.