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Weev is already toast. The Feds found tons of drugs when they raided his apartment shortly after he came out with the whole mess.

I can only hope these boys receive the justice of 'Bubba' in their cells. Daily instruction and indoctrination to widely open their minds to the error of their ways.
 
Horrible example, I could not agree less.

What they did isn't the same as stealing. Stealing implies that there was something taken. This is just duplication.

It is the same as taking a picture of something and showing something else. In this case, the information was sensitive and insecure. They showed it to a news organization to generate awareness.

If they hadn't, do you think AT&T would have done anything about it?

Now Weev may have other issues with drugs which is another matter entirely but as to the charges here, it sets a bad precedent for whistleblowers.

I suppose it would be fine by you for me to just copy all your credit cards, putting them politely back in your wallet, then post the copies on the internet, just to show everyone how badly you protected your wallet?

What about POSTING/GIVING the sensitive information itself generates more awareness then just telling someone? Answer: Nothing, but it does provide a nice financial/bragging insentive.

WHISTLEBLOWERS? Are you kidding?
 
Weev is already toast. The Feds found tons of drugs when they raided his apartment shortly after he came out with the whole mess.

Drugs = "cocaine, LSD, Ecstasy, and schedule 2 and 3 pharmaceuticals"

This boy needs to be hogtied and have his hippness shaved off. I bet he reeks as well.

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I was really upset when I found out that AT&T had the breach. It sucks because AT&T says that no personal information was able to be assessed except for email addresses. Isn't an email personal enough? How would they like it if they were getting emails from "themselves" trying to sell you different products.
I think that I would've rather had my credit card information stolen than my email address. At least with a credit card you can change the number with just a phone call and maybe a signature. You can't change an email that fast and especially when you had a paid email account and you have many services associated with the email.
Did AT&T get sued by anyone for the breach, because in my opinion, I think they should or should've.
 
While there were no physical goods taken, it WAS an illegal act; this was a form of theft. The only legal and ethical thing to have done with that list was send it to AT&T and say "Look what I found on your website".

That would also attract the attention of the Feds. The thing here is "unauthorized access of a computer network". The definition of what is authorized is whatever AT&T says it is. As was mentioned earlier, some important people had their info exposed, and someone has to pay for it. It certainly won't be AT&T, that's for certain.

There's a couple other odd cases like this that were prosecuted that were less clear-cut. One was the organization that was using bots to purchase Tickets at Ticketmaster - they were going through the public interface, just automating the purchase process. And the other case of the woman making a fake MySpace account leading to her neighbor's daughters suicide. There is was determined merely using a pseudonym was in violation of the TOS, and therefore an unauthorized access.

In either of these two cases, it appears that the prosecution looked for something, anything to throw at the defendants because there was no specific law against being an ******.
 
That would also attract the attention of the Feds. The thing here is "unauthorized access of a computer network". The definition of what is authorized is whatever AT&T says it is. As was mentioned earlier, some important people had their info exposed, and someone has to pay for it. It certainly won't be AT&T, that's for certain.

There's a couple other odd cases like this that were prosecuted that were less clear-cut. One was the organization that was using bots to purchase Tickets at Ticketmaster - they were going through the public interface, just automating the purchase process. And the other case of the woman making a fake MySpace account leading to her neighbor's daughters suicide. There is was determined merely using a pseudonym was in violation of the TOS, and therefore an unauthorized access.

In either of these two cases, it appears that the prosecution looked for something, anything to throw at the defendants because there was no specific law against being an ******.

Exactly. If this exposed the email address of some XBOX live users, all that would be effected would be a bunch of teenagers and 30-somethings that still live at home with mom and dad. It may have been a blip on CNET...if that. However, when you mess with people like Diane Sawyer, Harvey Weinstein, Michael Bloomberg and Rahm Emanuel - you better be ready for hell to be dished out.

To quote Malone from The Untouchables

You're muckin' with a G here, pal!
 
This is funny positive/negative news. Negative about the security breach but positive about the charges filed? Another to get rid of the whole system Macrumors!
 
Horrible example, I could not agree less.

What they did isn't the same as stealing. Stealing implies that there was something taken. This is just duplication.

It is the same as taking a picture of something and showing something else. In this case, the information was sensitive and insecure. They showed it to a news organization to generate awareness.

If they hadn't, do you think AT&T would have done anything about it?

Now Weev may have other issues with drugs which is another matter entirely but as to the charges here, it sets a bad precedent for whistleblowers.

Duplication is the same thing as theft. If you buy a movie and then illegally make a copy of that movie, and post it's contents on the web you are going to be charged with theft. Well actually you will be charged with several crimes, but you get the idea.

BTW, making a copy of information that you are not authorized to access, is more than just duplication. The reason these two are charged with Fraud and Accessing a Computer without Authorization is that this information was protected information. Just like anything else that doesn't belong to you, if you do not have expressed permission to access it, then you are stealing it.

What if somebody hacked your computer, found a story that you were writing - that you intended to sell, and that person copied that information and shared it with 100 other people on the Internet. You may still have your story on your computer, but so do potentially 100 other people. Therefore something of value has been taken from you, and freely distributed without your permission.
 
That would also attract the attention of the Feds. The thing here is "unauthorized access of a computer network". The definition of what is authorized is whatever AT&T says it is. As was mentioned earlier, some important people had their info exposed, and someone has to pay for it. It certainly won't be AT&T, that's for certain.

If the defendants had found this, and then immediately reported it to AT&T and NOTHING else, AT&T would of looked like an ass for prosecuting.

However, they didn't do that; what they did do was immoral and wrong, and they deserve what they get (within reason).
 
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