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This is amazing and wanted to share this. Haven't seen this with any other Mac I've owned. Big Sur effectively tells me I need to use more of my battery :)

I do use this system on battery on a daily basis for maybe 1/2 hour to about two hours max. It's likely sipping battery because this was on an Apple M1 system and isn't consuming enough to maintain good battery health.

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It's interesting to see that it also provides me an option to "Charge to Full Now" which makes sense if I need it.
 
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I just checked my MacBook 2015 on Big Sur 11.1 and don’t see this. Mine is always plugged in as I use in clamshell mode with an external display. Is this feature only available with new M1’s or do I need to switch this option on?
 
MBP 16-inch 2019 Intel, attached to monitor, open and mostly not in clamshell, mostly put to sleep overnight -- just today started getting same thing (although at 85%).

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I guess you need the battery health settings on:
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From a quick search I did, it looks like this feature is only available on TB3 and later machines. Looks like I am out of luck.
 
This is amazing and wanted to share this. Haven't seen this with any other Mac I've owned. Big Sur effectively tells me I need to use more of my battery :)

I do use this system on battery on a daily basis for maybe 1/2 hour to about two hours max. It's likely sipping battery because this was on an Apple M1 system and isn't consuming enough to maintain good battery health.

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It's interesting to see that it also provides me an option to "Charge to Full Now" which makes sense if I need it.
I just found this and researched it a bit. The message is slightly confusing, but it isn't telling you to go use more battery. It is telling you that "Charging is on hold, because you rarely use the MacBook on battery at this time of day." It's the optimized charging and is saying it won't keep cycling it to max charge since it has learned you rarely work on battery power at this time of day. So it is saving the battery since charging over 80% causes stress on a battery and should be avoided if you won't need it. Neat!
 
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Does this feature of Big Sur work on the 13" MacBook Pro 2020 intel 1.4GhZ?
 
I just found this and researched it a bit. The message is slightly confusing, but it isn't telling you to go use more battery. It is telling you that "Charging is on hold, because you rarely use the MacBook on battery at this time of day." It's the optimized charging and is saying it won't keep cycling it to max charge since it has learned you rarely work on battery power at this time of day. So it is saving the battery since charging over 80% causes stress on a battery and should be avoided if you won't need it. Neat!
I just saw that on my m1 MBA and still don't get it... I've never seen this message before... I'm confused... Sorry.
 
I just saw that on my m1 MBA and still don't get it... I've never seen this message before... I'm confused... Sorry.
The purpose is to extend the life of your battery.

Keeping a lithium-ion battery constantly charged to 100% reduces the long-term life of the battery (how long before your battery wears out and needs to be replaced).

The only time you need to charge your battery to 100% would be if you are going "portable." Since the OS has detected that you leave your Mac connected to charger most of the time, it leaves the charge level at 80% until you actually need to bring it up to 100%.
 
The purpose is to extend the life of your battery.

Keeping a lithium-ion battery constantly charged to 100% reduces the long-term life of the battery (how long before your battery wears out and needs to be replaced).

The only time you need to charge your battery to 100% would be if you are going "portable." Since the OS has detected that you leave your Mac connected to charger most of the time, it leaves the charge level at 80% until you actually need to bring it up to 100%.
okay got it thanks... But doesn't my iPhone 13 Pro have the same feature? I don't recall seeing that error message on my phone. Is that because the phones are constantly unplugged?
 
I just saw that on my m1 MBA and still don't get it... I've never seen this message before... I'm confused... Sorry.
My M1 MacBook Air has not started doing this, but I only just bought it a few days ago. Maybe it needs more time to learn my usage habits.
 
This is amazing and wanted to share this. Haven't seen this with any other Mac I've owned. Big Sur effectively tells me I need to use more of my battery :)

I do use this system on battery on a daily basis for maybe 1/2 hour to about two hours max. It's likely sipping battery because this was on an Apple M1 system and isn't consuming enough to maintain good battery health.

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It's interesting to see that it also provides me an option to "Charge to Full Now" which makes sense if I need it.
Respectfully disagree that either/both MBP Battery optimization(System Preferences>Battery>"Optimized Battery Charging") or Battery Health (System Preferences>Battery>Bettery Health) choices are great or even necessary. They aren't for me.

In my case, the MBP2019 got a new battery under warranty two years ago due to performance issues and its charging support in its previous versions of OS. From there, starting with a brand new battery, onwards to when they first introduced these two features (versions of Catalina, I think) my real battery performance has degraded - the battery actually failed when I needed it most- during a presentation, when I was on battery power.

My battery life started at max and before changing my charging methods (using MacOS), my expected battery life had gone from (apple measured data) 7336mAH to 6800mAH at full charge. Under these new methods, over a few weeks, the hours expectancy has gone up to 7130mAH. Real use has proven this. Whenever I use my battery it is at pretty much high power (11W+).

Seems to me Apple's idea of a usable battery is one that it's intended to work best when the battery is NEVER NEEDED. Kind of reverse psychology of having a long life battery powered laptop in the first place, right? Like insurance against need- works great if you never need battery power, like a UPS. Nope. Duh!

What works the best for me, and measurably improved the charging and availability of a fully charged battery when actually need is pretty simple- turn off all of the above and set a schedule of discharging in use - for me it's 3x/week @ about 40 minutes , then plug the Mac in to charge and let it charge fully, e.g., no charging on hold until 100% charge is reached. I

I found a helpful app for that and it works great, replacing the Apple monitoring display with far more detail- BetterBattery 2 Pro (BB2), available in the App Store. BB2 tracks my history in its own database taken from sensor reports same as the System gets. Having a separate database make the information accessible and trackable through System/OS even hardware upgrades (if saved).
 
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