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ChatGPT Integration in 18.2 - Is it better to login with my ChatGPT account or just use it anonymously?

Benz63amg

Benz63amg

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Just installed the RC of 18.2 and I want to enable chatGPT integration but wasn’t sure what to pick when I was greeted with the question if I want to use ChatGPT anonymously or login with my chatGPT account. It says openAI models won’t be trained with my data if I choose to use it anonymously but I’m not concerned at all as far as privacy goes but my question is, Which of the two settings will provide me with the better overall user experience?
 
I much prefer Perplexity.ai to Chat and you need, I believe, to log into it if you want to save a history of the sites you visited. I signed in with my Apple Account. I suspect Chat may work the same way.
 
Benz63amg said:
Just installed the RC of 18.2 and I want to enable chatGPT integration but wasn’t sure what to pick when I was greeted with the question if I want to use ChatGPT anonymously or login with my chatGPT account. It says openAI models won’t be trained with my data if I choose to use it anonymously but I’m not concerned at all as far as privacy goes but my question is, Which of the two settings will provide me with the better overall user experience?
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Id say stay anonymous, if you don't need to give them more data, don't.
 
The more it knows about you, the better. I think it would work if you're not worried about privacy.

The only advantage I'm thinking is paying for Chat GPT to avoid going over the daily limit but time will tell how much that happens.
 
I’m using it logged out for now. I watched Zollotech’s video and he mentioned that unless you’re paying for a chatGPT upgraded membership then there’s really no need to log in as it doesn’t really add any added benefit to you as the user but certainly benefits openAI as your inputs will be used to train their models. I’m a free plan user so based on that I’ll just use it signed out

And by the way, ChatGPT can still keep a history of your asked questions even if you’re not signed in through the iOS menu. I asked it a question yesterday through Siri and when given the answer, there’s a small ChatGPT icon which is clickable within the answer prompt that ChatGPT gave me, if you click that small ChatGPT icon it opens up the ChatGPT app and it asked me if I want my question history to be tracked which I click yes.
 
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Isn‘t the deal Apple made with OpenAI that none of the iOS integration data can be used by OpenAI for training etc.?

So it really doesn‘t make a difference whether you log in or not.
 
TimFL1 said:
Isn‘t the deal Apple made with OpenAI that none of the iOS integration data can be used by OpenAI for training etc.?

So it really doesn‘t make a difference whether you log in or not.
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Well, the method I mentioned above clearly demonstrates that OpenAI has a built in backdoor/way of logging your question history into your ChatGPT account regardless of whether you’re logged in or not through the extensions/settings page of Apple Intelligence. As I understand, the only reason to login to your ChatGPT account through the extension settings page is if you have you a premium/advanced ChatGPT paid subscription and want to take advantage of its benefits.
 
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Benz63amg said:
Well, the method I mentioned above clearly demonstrates that OpenAI has a built in backdoor/way of logging your question history into your ChatGPT account regardless of whether you’re logged in or not through the extensions/settings page of Apple Intelligence. As I understand, the only reason to login to your ChatGPT account through the extension settings page is if you have you a premium/advanced ChatGPT paid subscription and want to take advantage of its benefits.
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There is a difference between having a conversation history for context and allowing your data to be used for training / monetization / etc.

AFAIK the deal with Apple prevents them from gaining anything but a coherent conversation context from your data.
 
Its just extremely slow, I never use it. I just have the ChatGPT instead and finding it super fast.
 
I sign in so that way if I use the app (or website) for something, it has my previous requests saved. I do not think OpenAI is allowed to use our actual data (other than the prompts/question) for anything, and then there is Private Cloud Compute, so I would say we are pretty safe/anonymous.

Going to have to actually read all the fine print and what not at some point, haha!

:apple:
 
SRLMJ23 said:
I sign in so that way if I use the app (or website) for something, it has my previous requests saved. I do not think OpenAI is allowed to use our actual data (other than the prompts/question) for anything, and then there is Private Cloud Compute, so I would say we are pretty safe/anonymous.

Going to have to actually read all the fine print and what not at some point, haha!

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My requests are saved as well in to my ChatGPT account history and i am NOT signed in via the Apple Intelligence Extensions menu on iOS. I detailed everything several posts above.
 
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Signed out of using my free account, instantly went over the limit despite not using any ChatGPT requests at all. Great..
 
lanceuppercut47 said:
Signed out of using my free account, instantly went over the limit despite not using any ChatGPT requests at all. Great..
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What does that mean? Are you saying the daily limit when NOT signed in is lower than when signed in even with a free/basic plan? You think they did that as an incentive to get people to log in so that they can continue gathering user data to train their LLM’s?
 
Benz63amg said:
What does that mean? Are you saying the daily limit when NOT signed in is lower than when signed in even with a free/basic plan? You think they did that as an incentive to get people to log in so that they can continue gathering user data to train their LLM’s?
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I think it was just some weird bug, later in the same day it was showing under limit again. It wouldn't make sense to offer more queries if you were signed in as Apple's big thing about it was you were tracked or your data used for training, apparently.
 
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