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they will but not yet. Right now google has tons of money to burn and makes 100 billion a quarter. it's the opposite at openAI since they are burning money and depend on VC money hence they need ads now.

Google can afford to go 5 years w/o showing ads in Gemini

Gemini can also just act as a UI for google shopping, maps and search, so the 'ads' are just whatever the results or recommendations are. Gemini doesn't need additional ads, because it can just drive you to existing Google revenue generators while pretending it's giving an impartial response.
 
Gemini can also just act as a UI for google shopping, maps and search, so the 'ads' are just whatever the results or recommendations are. Gemini doesn't need additional ads, because it can just drive you to existing Google revenue generators while pretending it's giving an impartial response.
Ya they don't need more ads but we all know they will still add them. Google can never (or any company it seems but especially google) get enough ads
 
The problem is these businesses need to make a case of why you should pay for it. A casual user will not want to pay $20 a month for something they may use a handful of times. Also as Prime Video has shown. Even if you pay for it they can still add in Ad’s.

The casual user should not be averse to seeing an ad since they are getting considerable value. The service MUST be paid for. They aren't a charity. If nothing else, they have to pay for their electric bill. The electricity required to answer a moderately complex question (say, one that takes 60 seconds to answer) can cost up to 0.2 cents. That 0.2 cents corresponds to a $2 CPM ad price. Low-cost un-targeted inventory goes as low as $1 CPM.

A point people forget, without ads and commerce, everything of value on the internet would be locked behind paywalls. You can't be a happy non-paying MacRumors user and complain about ads on other sites without being a flaming hypocrite. Ask yourself whether the value you get here is worth seeing a few ads. My guess is you'll probably say it is. Why would you be here otherwise?

BTW, I pay $20/month for ChatGPT. I get my money's worth because I use it to research subjects I'm interested in. It often has to "think" for significant amounts of time, especially when I ask it to browse the web for specific information and synthesize it. I know I'm not the typical casual user. If I were, ads would not bother.
 
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Switched to grok from gpt and Claude, never looked back. Could care less about Elon and moaning about him, grok is extremely impressive and that’s what I’m paying for, what it can do.
 
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$20 a month is a bit much. I would probably pay $9.99 to remove ads. By the way, there is really no limit to the number of questions on the free tier. When it times me out after 5-10 questions, I just keep going, and it keeps responding, for as long as I can last.
 
Yes please raise prices to discourage customers from using them. A simple request to ChatGPT can use about as much water as a small bottle you'd buy from the corner shop.

Let’s not destroy our planet.
Using water doesn’t destroy the planet, given the water cycle and law of conservation of matter. The problems of water usage are impacts to local water availability and pollution, which many data centers try to minimize. It’s just destroying the locals 😂
 
The casual user should not be averse to seeing an ad since they are getting considerable value. The service MUST be paid for. They aren't a charity. If nothing else, they have to pay for their electric bill. The electricity required to answer a moderately complex question (say, one that takes 60 seconds to answer) can cost up to 0.2 cents. That 0.2 cents corresponds to a $2 CPM ad price. Low-cost un-targeted inventory goes as low as $1 CPM.

A point people forget, without ads and commerce, everything of value on the internet would be locked behind paywalls. You can't be a happy non-paying MacRumors user and complain about ads on other sites without being a flaming hypocrite. Ask yourself whether the value you get here is worth seeing a few ads. My guess is you'll probably say it is. Why would you be here otherwise?

BTW, I pay $20/month for ChatGPT. I get my money's worth because I use it to research subjects I'm interested in. It often has to "think" for significant amounts of time, especially when I ask it to browse the web for specific information and synthesize it. I know I'm not the typical casual user. If I were, ads would not bother.
Congratulations you are the product
 
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Disappointing to see that ads will be coming soon. Hopefully there won't be too many ads and that too only while doing shopping. Would like to see the cheaper plan in more countries.
 
Congratulations you are the product

That's certainly true if you don't want to pay and don't know how to conceal your identity. It's a tradeoff for you. Pay to be hidden or pay with your behavior. The only difference between someone who agrees to see ads and be tracked from the company doing the tracking and showing the ads is that the person sells their behavior for access to digital media, the company sells their behavior for cash. Welcome to Capitalism.
 
And the downward trend of ChatGPT starts. The tech world really needs to come up with another business model because going ad-driven leads to your product becoming worse. Facebook, Instagram & Youtube all used to be great services. Once ads came in, the copmanies (or their shareholder owners) liked the ad revenues and wanted more. How do you get more ad revenues when your platform is already widely used? Show more ads. How do you show more ads? Keep people on the sites/services for longer. How do you keep people on the site for longer? Make the algorithm more addictive, stop serving up relevant content (how many things on yourFacebook book freed thesedays are actually from your friends) and push content to make people angry.

With Facebook etc this decay to the era of doomscrolling took almost a decade: at the rate ChatGPT is burning money it wouldn't surprise me if ChatGPT is laden with ads every 2-3 queries within 3 years.
 
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