Okay so I have my eyes set on the 13'inch MBP. I heard that it will refresh soon and I will be happy to wait for that refresh. Assuming the new refresh will not change the price but only update the hardware. Currently, the MBP costs $1200, and with a student discount, I can get it for $1100. During the summer, my school does occasional sales of MBP for $1000 or MBP + iTouch or something like that. But even $1000 is a price I would be unhappy to pay. Now, after the refresh hits, I heard from people that the current MBP (which will be outdated then) will go to the Refurb stores. Can someone confirm this? Its strange that they send "never been used new" products to a Refurb store. So my question is, if the current models go to the Refurb store, what do you estimate the price to be? $800~900? I actually saw a new White Macbook, because of the refresh, Microcenter was selling it for $800 ($200 off the original price) and some other sales as low as $740. Some people on slickdeals forums were talking about open box white macbook can be as low as $640 in that Microcenter. (Thats $360 off the original price!) Should I hope to buy it at an Apple Refurb store or should I wait for another MicroCenter type of deals after the MBP refreshes some time soon?