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creative makes good stuff...but the zen sux compared to the ipod. i used my friends older zen (20gb) and it was horrid. clunky interface, buttons everywhere, BAH. anyway....
Creative dosnt seem very creative... ;)
 
Try a newer Nomad Zen. The origional was crap.

Or try an iRiver. Or even bettery, buy an iPod, so Apple gets money, and leave the good players for us with good ears. Seeing as most people don't have good ears, Apple gets plenty, and the competiton gets plenty.

Everyone's happy...
 
hob said:
unless this is what you were gettin at - the OS (whilst indeed looks just like the iPod OS) looks just like the OS I just saw on a Dell DJ!!
I'll bet they're both using PortalPlayer chipsets and the Pixo operating system from Sun, just like Apple is doing. Apple are putting their own applications on this platform, but since other vendors are also using the same tool set, similarities are inevitable.
 
Ok, the iRiver is also quite the ripoff (at least the H120, the only one that truly competes with the iPod). There are only three features that are appealing, and they have balancing points.

First, they claim to offer up to 600 hours of music, but there's a catch.

That's only if you use OGG files for all your music. Now, I have over 5 GB's of AAC and MP3 files, and I'd rather not have to convert them. Of course I could keep the MP3's, but the AAC files will not play, and they make up over 90% of my library. Also, that would put me back on par, or actually behind the iPod in storage capacity, considering it's still only a 20GB drive, instead of the iPod's max 40. Even the closest in price is the same size for $30 cheaper.

Built in recording seems nice, although I'd be interested in what type of quality it gets. I'd kinda prefer an iTalk, as it would still bring to total price to around the same amount, and I believe is better quality, plus you get a small speaker on the iTalk. Balance that with the disadvantage of USB 2.0 instead of FireWire, and the iPod is still on top.

Last, there is the battery life. I get 8 hours or more on the iPod, but it does occasionally die on me after work on the way home, which I do not particularly care for. However, the interface clunkiness would cancel that out for me, and I'd rather have an easy to use player than one that plays longer, because I won't be playing it very much at all if it's not easy to use.
In addition, the iRiver is nearly a third thicker, taking up extra pocket space (already at a premium). I'm sorry, but my iPod is just the right size, and adding that much dimension to it is just not going to cut it.

jW
 
stop bashin' ipod!!!

**** JALEXSTER. if ur name is alex, that's cool but u dont see anyone goin to a g5 forum and sayin "g5 sucks so buy a dell" do u? if you want a creative pos ipod ripoff go buy one and spend 24 freakin hours listening to it instead of posting stupid crap. is the "iriver" itunes compatible? does it charge over fw? does it support aac? is it mac compatible? if the answers are yes, so be it cause i dont know, im just conjecturing. it should be called I tshouldbethrownina RIVER
 
This is what they should do to make it even more funny. Change the OK button to a NO. If you listening to something you don't like then click No and it will play the next song. It will keep counts of how many times you said NO for a song. Your jukebox software can rank all those songs at the top of the list.
 
WHY?

WHY??!!!
 

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heh. . . you mean there is someone else coppying apple trying to make their product better?!!?! anyone else notice it has such a long battery life. .. . at a HUGE sacrifice in audio quality? not to mention storage space. . . it uses a compressed WMA format to cram twice as much music into the same amount of space. huge quality sacrifices. im not to worried apple still has 50% market share of such music devices. . . and with the release of the new iPod i doubt that will be decreasing anytime soon.
 
Am I the only person that notices the huge "lolarity" in the fact that the company's name is "CREATIVE"?
 
themadchemist said:
please note that this is spam...The amazon link has a referral tagged onto it.
That is complete and utter bullsh¡t. Any referrer id that was in there was put in there by Amazon, without my knowledge. The reference to "Buy it on Amazon" was a joke. I personally would rather you support Apple by not buying this product. I have been a member of the forums for a while now, though I haven't posted much. Why would I be a spammer? If you think this reply is harsh, perhaps you should evaluate a situation a little more carefully before insulting someone.
 
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