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I rented a new(ish) Camaro convertible last summer, and it was terrible. I hadn't been in a Chevy since before the recession, and I thought maybe their quality improved similarly to how Ford's did in the past decade. Boy was I wrong. The thing was plastic galore, creaky, awful ergonomics. I didn't think it was possible for convertibles to have poor visibility, but I was proven wrong. Thankfully Hertz was willing to swap it for a Ford Mustang for me after a day.
 
This will be an interesting experiment. I have read tons of studies that those with more disposable income purchase Apple while those with less purchase Android. If true, it will be interesting how this plays out in the cars. Will luxury cars tend for CarPlay? Will higher trim levels of non-luxury cars also tend towards Apple? And conversely will the cheap cars or the base models tend towards Google?

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm not sure the base trim models will include (native) support for either. You need to have the infotainment screen for either system and the base models of most cars will likely not include that.
 
Hope it's better than the "Siri Eyes Free" system that's in the Equinox:

- Hit the button on the steering wheel
- Me: "Voice"
- Equinox: "Ok, accessing phone"
- Wait 10 seconds for Siri to fire up.
- Siri: "Goodbye"
- Me: "Ugh. Stupid Chevy"
 
I don't think you understand how CarPlay and Android Auto work...

The auto maker doesn't have to pick one or the other unless they have some kind of exclusive partnership.

CarPlay and Auto are simply software running on the entertainment center's computer.

As far as I've understood, Apple isn't making any exclusive deals with automakers, it makes no sense and would only alienate people.

If they already have an iPhone, they'll want to use CarPlay. If they already have an Android phone, they'll want to use Auto.

No I think I got everything you have stated. But Apple and Google, and probably GM and the NSA, will know how many cars (and which models) are using Carplay versus Google Auto. My point was that it would be interesting to see if people who have more money, who will buy the more expensive cars, own iphones and therefore use carplay.

Again, if the theory is correct, people with less money have androids and wont buy the expensive cars.

So, while both CarPlay and Auto are available, the usage will not be even.
 
CarPlay has been available to you via third-party, aftermarket head units. they came out late last summer.

I have the Pioneer head unit. It is the top of the line model. After using it for a while, I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.

-Using maps at night doesn't go into "night mode", so remains so bright, it blinds you.
-The voice commands are horrible.
-Dictating text messages is a recipe for some hilarious misspellings--so you can't use it in a professional context.
-It loses connectivity sometimes.
-CarPlay occasionally crashes the head unit.
-It can be unresponsive for 30+ seconds.


Much of this is probably an issue with the hardware, but I bet all other cars will have the same issue since Apple isn't making car head units. If they want this to work well, they better make head units. Right now, it is more annoying than helpful.
 
I wish android and Apple would somehow figure a way to allow you to 'install' carplay / android auto to head units that for all purposes have the capability of supporting it.


Toyota uses QNX based headunits. They have all the harware and software platform in place.

Yet they've decided outright to go their own software root and not allow either Android Auto or CarPlay to be used. on existing or future cars.

As a 2012 Toyota own with touchscreen device, this is a mistake. The Toyota navi unit is terrible. the voice recognition is horrendous and innacurate. Toyota charges $200 for map updates and it's constantly just wrong.

however, having AA or CP isn't going to be enough to have me sell my current car and buy a GM. owned a few. No Thanks, never again
 
Of course the one Chevy car I am looking at maybe getting is the Sonic and it isn't on the list of cars that will be getting carplay :( which is weird because the Spark will which the Sonic is the next step up from the Spark hmmm.

Also why would you want Wireless carplay, the only thing i can see out of that is major battery drain, that is a lot of data to be sent through Bluetooth or whatever interface they would use. At least with wired it charges your phone at the same time.
 
Nice. But when is Chevrolet going to update it's tacky 80's style logo that is such an awful blight on their cars? Truly horrendous.
I think maybe they could modernize it or go retro. Either way they need to change it.
 
No I think I got everything you have stated. But Apple and Google, and probably GM and the NSA, will know how many cars (and which models) are using Carplay versus Google Auto. My point was that it would be interesting to see if people who have more money, who will buy the more expensive cars, own iphones and therefore use carplay.

Again, if the theory is correct, people with less money have androids and wont buy the expensive cars.

So, while both CarPlay and Auto are available, the usage will not be even.

Following your logic, you're right, the numbers won't be even. They will favor AA since far more inexpensive cars are sold worldwide. Again, that's following your logic. Real world experience is most likely completely different.
 
Carplay is one of the most slowest release of a product ever, meanwhile Apple learned a lot about Car Companies. That info will benefit the Apple Car project.
 
I have the Pioneer head unit. It is the top of the line model. After using it for a while, I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.

-Using maps at night doesn't go into "night mode", so remains so bright, it blinds you.
-The voice commands are horrible.
-Dictating text messages is a recipe for some hilarious misspellings--so you can't use it in a professional context.
-It loses connectivity sometimes.
-CarPlay occasionally crashes the head unit.
-It can be unresponsive for 30+ seconds.


Much of this is probably an issue with the hardware, but I bet all other cars will have the same issue since Apple isn't making car head units. If they want this to work well, they better make head units. Right now, it is more annoying than helpful.

You should have gone with the Alpine unit. It has a capacitive screen, very responsive, auto adjusts for brightness, and pretty much bug free after the latest update to Carplay. Plus it has a dedicated physical Siri button which really comes in handy.

I imagine the reason it works so well with Carplay is because its a dedicated Carplay unit. I can see how a more general purpose piece of hardware that's meant to support both Android Auto and Carplay would not work as well as one dedicated to one or the other.
 
Huh! Didn't realize they were still making the Volt. Interesting. Been thinking about picking up a prius in the next couple years; perhaps I'll give... Chevrolet... another look. Words I never thought I'd say...

All new generation 2 is coming out this summer - greatly improved.
 
This is just like shopping for your first Mac :D

Yes, sir, i want the one with CarPlay.
 
I want a car that supports both wired and wireless. Wireless if I'm running to the 7-11 real quick, wired for longer trips where I want to keep my phone topped off.
 
yes...quite aware....but now that newer cars have more features its becoming more and more problematic to incorporate aftermarket units. Ive looked into the pioneer App radio - which is basically all an iphone user needs - a screen with speaker amp and carplay support. howeve,. to incorporate other car items ie usb/aux port, back up camera, microphone, car diagnostics etc you need to jump through hoops to make it all seamless, whereas id prefer my car to just come carplay equiped

sort of. the aftermarket head units have support for inputs, back up cam, mic, and steering wheel controls. I've had a couple AppRadios, tho I'm not thrilled with their implementation, my next will likely be the similar Alpine unit.
 
Thank you. Also, the Alpine ILX-007 does support wireless Carplay. It is the only one I know of so far.

Do you know what build? I am on the latest beta, have an ILX-007 in my car and would be interested in this. I plug in now and don't mind, but it would be a nice thing to have.

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sort of. the aftermarket head units have support for inputs, back up cam, mic, and steering wheel controls. I've had a couple AppRadios, tho I'm not thrilled with their implementation, my next will likely be the similar Alpine unit.

On the alpine It was a pain to get everything going. I also haven't installed a car radio since i was a kid (20 years ago, wow I'm old) and didn't do the twist and tape method for the wires. I am older and took my time and soldiered them all. I also only added the steering wheel controls. They work great and the stock speakers sound much better. I would say 4 hours. Lets not talk about the cost of the head unit and the steering wheel controller add on.
 
I have the Pioneer head unit. It is the top of the line model. After using it for a while, I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT.

-Using maps at night doesn't go into "night mode", so remains so bright, it blinds you.
-The voice commands are horrible.
-Dictating text messages is a recipe for some hilarious misspellings--so you can't use it in a professional context.
-It loses connectivity sometimes.
-CarPlay occasionally crashes the head unit.
-It can be unresponsive for 30+ seconds.


Much of this is probably an issue with the hardware, but I bet all other cars will have the same issue since Apple isn't making car head units. If they want this to work well, they better make head units. Right now, it is more annoying than helpful.

I don't agree that pioneer is the top of the line in the market. their AppRadio units have been pretty awful. the alpine 007 gets better reviews.
 
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