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Bare in mind.. you're asking a forum of (mainly) Mac users + fans what they think about a WINDOWS laptop, you're gonna get some biased results.
Its a nice laptop and the specs are fine but the main issue is the OS for me. Having just (about 2 days ago) converted to mac, I'm really glad i switched. The OS is swimmingly fantastic, vista.. mehh not so great.
 
I played with that laptop. It is gorgeous and well built. It does have better hardware than the Macbook and hardware wise you get more for the money. I would buy it today if it had OS X. That is really the only reason I buy Mac's. Take that away and it is bye bye Apple for me.
 
groovdudeyo said:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...Id=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921665519347

So I went to cnet because im planning on buying a lapyop and they had some quiz thing to see which laptops are for you and so I looked at the sony vaio laptops and for the same price as the new macbook I can a get a 200 times better laptop. What do you guys think of this.
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It is a 16.4" laptop for a start. So you can't really compare it to the MB.

That said it is a nice laptop if only it could run OSX on it somehow.
 
Now, I'm no fanboi or anything, but I seriously don't like that laptops looks...The Power Button and hinge is not nice :(

Also my friend has a similar Vaio, and, though it may not be the caswe with this one, but with his, the marketing shots didn't show that it gets much thicker than the edge on the underside for some reason.
 
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Oops..I think you're looking for sonypcrumors.com.
 
mcdj said:
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Oops..I think you're looking for sonypcrumors.com.
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err thats not really funny I wasnt looking for support to get that one I was looking for reasons to get a macbook and reasons why.
 
groovdudeyo said:
err thats not really funny I wasnt looking for support to get that one I was looking for reasons to get a macbook and reasons why.
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Honestly Apple's saving grace in my opinion is their OS X and software as I said earlier. I used the link you provided and for less than $1600 you can get a monster of a laptop with Bluray, more power, and all sorts of cool hardware. I tested it at the mall a few weeks ago and I was very impressed with how it looked and the quality of the build.

Why buy a Mac? OS X Take that away and Apple isn't all that. If you can live without OS X and then that Sony is a hell of a laptop for the price.
 
If you want to run Mac OS X, get a MacBook (Pro).

If you want to run Windows Vista (or XP), get the Sony.

If you want to run OS X and Vista (or XP), get a MacBook (Pro).
 
Okay then for all of you who have tried leopard and vista is there tha huge of a difference? I mean like someone said already for the same price as a macbook I can get a Hell of a sony laptop. and cnet rates os x an 8/10 and vista a 7.5/10.
 
My situation is that I was waiting for the new Macbooks. I needed firewire and did not want to pay for a Macbook Pro.

I also looked at the FW-290. Spec wise it's kills the Mac lineup aside from video (it's close). Cost is less than a Macbook. Looks nice too. Problem is, you are not only stuck with Vista, but Sony fills these things with so much bloat and onboard programs you have to spend a day just uninstalling them.

You also can't install Vista from scratch, only the Sony OEM build w/ the bloat. Also no XP. Not even sure how an upgrade to Windows 7 would work, because they don't provide the drivers for the hardware.

I bought a black macbook refurb. I will wait till the dust settles with the firewire issue and in the meantime I skip a rev. A product, and likely will jump in on the Pro or aluminum Macbook once they get a spec update.

The black is an awesome deal right now, especially if you need FW like I do.
 
groovdudeyo said:
Okay then for all of you who have tried leopard and vista is there tha huge of a difference? I mean like someone said already for the same price as a macbook I can get a Hell of a sony laptop. and cnet rates os x an 8/10 and vista a 7.5/10.
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As my signature states I have both Vista and OS X on my Macbook. I like Vista especially after they fixed some of the problems they had initially with it. It isn't that bad. That being said I love OS X.

The question you are asking is really a one in which is a personal choice. Kind of like asking someone if they prefer a Whitebook or Blackbook with the same specs. Each person has their own tastes.

Most on here will bash Vista and praise OS X. That is to be expected though. It is a Mac message board. Mess with both OS's and pick which one you like best.
 
kubricks said:
My situation is that I was waiting for the new Macbooks. I needed firewire and did not want to pay for a Macbook Pro.

I also looked at the FW-290. Spec wise it's kills the Mac lineup aside from video (it's close). Cost is less than a Macbook. Looks nice too. Problem is, you are not only stuck with Vista, but Sony fills these things with so much bloat and onboard programs you have to spend a day just uninstalling them.

You also can't install Vista from scratch, only the Sony OEM build w/ the bloat. Also no XP. Not even sure how an upgrade to Windows 7 would work, because they don't provide the drivers for the hardware.

I bought a black macbook refurb. I will wait till the dust settles with the firewire issue and in the meantime I skip a rev. A product, and likely will jump in on the Pro or aluminum Macbook once they get a spec update.

The black is an awesome deal right now, especially if you need FW like I do.
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Actually you can order it without all that bloatware from Sony for free. I just messed with the site he linked and it is an option.
 
fozzyblob said:
Yes it is higher spec, however it takes more to run vista as it is a processor and memory whore. So in spending all that money it still wouldn't run as quick as a macbook and as stable.
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Spec wise it isn't similar. The Sony is way better on the specs. No comparison there. Add some of their option power wise and other hardware and you still get a lot more for less. OS X is where it loses in my opinion and only there.
 
hogfaninga said:
Spec wise it isn't similar. The Sony is way better on the specs. No comparison there. Add some of their option power wise and other hardware and you still get a lot more for less. OS X is where it loses in my opinion and only there.
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Yeah, that was my point, it is a better computer, spec wise, however it is running Vista, which just whores up that power which causes it to run slower than what OS X does on a standard MacBook.
 
fozzyblob said:
Yeah, that was my point, it is a better computer, spec wise, however it is running Vista, which just whores up that power which causes it to run slower than what OS X does on a standard MacBook.
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I hate that I'm defending Vista, but it isn't as much as a resource hog as you are making out. I got it on my Windows partition and yes it takes up more resources than OS X, but it isn't such a big deal. Heck you can add 4GB's to the Sony for $100 and can do it yourself probably for much less. 4GB on Vista runs great.
 
groovdudeyo said:
Okay then for all of you who have tried leopard and vista is there tha huge of a difference?
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If you get a Macbook, you can run both. If you look at it that way, you pay say $1500 for the Mac, $100 for Vista, or $1600 total. That's 2 computers for $800 each.
 
hogfaninga said:
Honestly Apple's saving grace in my opinion is their OS X and software as I said earlier. I used the link you provided and for less than $1600 you can get a monster of a laptop with Bluray, more power, and all sorts of cool hardware. I tested it at the mall a few weeks ago and I was very impressed with how it looked and the quality of the build.

Why buy a Mac? OS X Take that away and Apple isn't all that. If you can live without OS X and then that Sony is a hell of a laptop for the price.
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and now you know one of the reasons why apple only allows osx on their hardware...they are a hardware company and make good money on that front...and I imagine there are a ton of people like you and I that would jump ship to other hardware if we could legally run osx on it...the only reason I have a mac is for osx, period, and everytime I buy apple hardware I am reminded of how much I hate paying their markup on hardware
 
Did anyone even build a sony to spec similar to your MB? My 2.4 Ghz aluminum came to less than $200 more than a similarly spec'd sony. I will GLADLY pay $200 to have a reliable, fast computer. My last pc was a sony laptop. Effing terrible. Never again.
 
groovdudeyo said:
Okay then for all of you who have tried leopard and vista is there tha huge of a difference? I mean like someone said already for the same price as a macbook I can get a Hell of a sony laptop. and cnet rates os x an 8/10 and vista a 7.5/10.
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if you don't know why you need a mac or osx, then go for more power and get a windows machine

I run osx, vista, xp, ubuntu, etc, etc... on my macbook, if I didn't know why I needed osx then I would not hesitate to get more powerful hardware for the same price and run windows.

Vista isn't that bad now and I think windows 7 will end up being just as solid as xp pro is (and it is an extremely solid OS).
 
Lurchdubious said:
Did anyone even build a sony to spec similar to your MB? My 2.4 Ghz aluminum came to less than $200 more than a similarly spec'd sony. I will GLADLY pay $200 to have a reliable, fast computer. My last pc was a sony laptop. Effing terrible. Never again.
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I just did. 2.4 Ghz 4GB with Bluray and with bloatware taken out for less than $1400. Bump it up to 2.53 Ghz and it is still $50 less than the 2.4 new alu Macbook with Bluray, bigger and nicer screen (you can get their 13'3 screen version that weighs 4.14 pounds which is less than the current Macbook) for the same price, and get 4GB instead of the standard 2GB on the new 2.4 Macbook Pro photo/video software, ect.. Plus they give you XP disks if you don't want Vista. Nice laptop. Add OS X and I'm in.
 
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