I work in an office and can tell you this is absolutely wrong. The only people who would believe this are kids in school.
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Chicago Tribune Claims iPhone Radiofrequency Radiation Levels Measured Higher Than Legal Safety Limit in Tests
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I work in an office and can tell you this is absolutely wrong. The only people who would believe this are kids in school.
This reminds me of the Diesel scandals where, in Germany, all manufacturers building cars with Diesel engines were found to exceed emission caps in real-life conditions. All they need to do is get through the smog test. Turning off exhaust gas cleaning because temperature or atmospheric pressure drops is legal. (Only VW got in trouble because they implemented a "test mode" that know when the car was being tested, which happened to be illegal.).
From the Tribune article: "After reviewing the lab reports from the Tribune’s tests, the FCC said it would take the rare step of conducting its own testing over the next couple of months."
The same tests, performed to the same federal standard, by accredited test labs but with different results and considered significant enough by the FCC itself to investigate... and all you got is shooting the messenger? Are all these players just hacks that don't understand science?
There was an article about how these tests are done and, similar to the VW emission tests, it’s up to the manufacturer to determine how the user holds their phone. So these tests did not replicate the original tests and frankly, I’m not worried.
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Yep, that was mentioned (by me). However as I said I use My AirPods or car BT. In any event, I’m not worried. YMMV.
Interesting. I find it difficult to believe that Apple would really have messed this up? I suppose we will learn for sure in due course. In the meantime, as an 8 Plus user I guess I can be confident that I’m not going to turn into Godzilla overnight
I also have the 8 Plus. I wouldn’t be opposed to turning into Godzilla if the fire breath came with the transformation. Imagine the possibilities! Lighting candles would be so easy!
No need to spread FUD. Why not name the models affected instead of trying to scare people into believing all Samsung/Motorola/vivo models are affected.
I read something a while ago that the bt power coming from them is very low. Would be the least of anyone’s worries
Seems like the point there was that it's not really about Apple specifically.
Interesting that "FUD" got brought up...
Well, it seems that the Chicago Tribune headline isn't iPhone specific. The article on MacRumors does focus on the iPhone in particular, which isn't exactly strange given that the site is more focused on things related to Apple.
True, though it should be noted that while 50 years ago broadcast towers might have been out in the "middle of nowhere," these days with population growth, those same towers are now in some people's back yards.
...now what you really don't want to do is step in front of a microwave (2.4GHz range) transmission dish.
I thought of a way they could screw up.
When you do compliance testing, you have to set the radio to transmit at the highest power possible for the longest time it can handle. This requires special firmware and tools not available to normal users, because activating that mode would effectively jam the cell site.
If these tests were not done with manufacturer support, the only way they could have made the phone transmit is with a cell site simulator.
Did they incorrectly extrapolate the power received with their cell site simulator to full results? For example, their cell site simulator only handles 5 MHz carriers, so they merely multiplied the power by 2 for 10 MHz channels, ignoring the fact that a lower uplink power is available for wider carriers. Were there time-slot limitations, in their simulator, for example?
Did they also properly separate the power from the cell site from the power emitted by the phone?
This is a little outside my normal area, so one of the EMC test engineers who responded earlier could probably comment better on testing products without access to their special modes.
"While tests can be conducted from up to 25mm away, The Chicago Tribune used the distance that manufacturers choose for their own tests. In Apple's case, that's 5mm. A second test was also done at 2mm to simulate the way most people carry their phones."
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And the answer to those questions would be: "haptic feedback."
Are you worried your fingertips are going to turn black and fall off? BTW, even a minimalistic case is ~2mm.
Who is spreading FUD? MacRumors or the Chicago Tribune? I'm only quoting what the article said. I find it interesting an accredited lab is getting different results for different manufacturers. So either the lab is measuring it wrong or these phone manufacturers have doctored up the test.
I commend you for your username and profile picture. RIP John Dunsworth...Interesting. I find it difficult to believe that Apple would really have messed this up? I suppose we will learn for sure in due course. In the meantime, as an 8 Plus user I guess I can be confident that I’m not going to turn into Godzilla overnight
Full power at 2mm is probably only going to happen when in a back pocket, using bluetooth to talk for a long time in a weak reception area. Held t your head your ear will keep the phone more than 5mm away (except to your ear cartilage, though your ear is pretty tough)
But more to the point, either every manufacturer and all the world regulatory agencies are wrong or cheating and there have been zero whistleblowers for years and years, or the chicago tribune did the test wrong.
Maybe, just maybe, the trib should check their methods?
But more to the point, either every manufacturer and all the world regulatory agencies are wrong or cheating and there have been zero whistleblowers for years and years, or the chicago tribune did the test wrong.
Maybe, just maybe, the trib should check their methods?
My wrist has no vital organs though I suppose I might get wrist cancer. Is that a thing? Wrist tumors? I don’t think this kind of radiation is link to skin cancer.
