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You know because god forbid celebrities try and use their notoriety to help people in desperate need.

Statements like this absolutely boggle my mind.

Oh and Haiti is a devastatingly poor country, Chile has had its problems in the past, but it is most definitely not on the same level as Haiti in terms of need.

The # of fatalities coming out of Chile speaks for itself, Haiti was astronomically worse.

That being said, we should help Chile as much as we possibly can.

I guess the people of Haiti are more important than the people of Chile according to you. Loss of life is loss of life. So will the celebrities be raising money to help defray the cost of the destruction or the people of Chile don't deserve that?
 
I guess the people of Haiti are more important than the people of Chile according to you. Loss of life is loss of life. So will the celebrities be raising money to help defray the cost of the destruction or the people of Chile don't deserve that?

Its not about one being more important than the other.

Chile has more resources, that is all.

There were hundreds of thousands of deaths in Haiti from the earthquake, initial reports in Chile are looking like it is not nearly as bad.

Sure there is lots of destruction, but it seems most people are ok.

I never said we should help Chile less, simply said that Chile is not in
the same situation as Haiti.

I think we should help Chile rebuild as much as we possibly can, just
as we did with Haiti. I was simply responding to your point about
celebrity attention. Chile will not need the amount of help that Haiti
did. When hundreds of thousands of people die, you require more help.

It's called common sense.

Since when is mass destruction and death a political issue or argument anyway?

If people need help, they should get it. End of story.
 
Its not about one being more important than the other.

Chile has more resources, that is all.

There were hundreds of thousands of deaths in Haiti from the earthquake, initial reports in Chile are looking like it is not nearly as bad.

Sure there is lots of destruction, but it seems most people are ok.

I never said we should help Chile less, simply said that Chile is not in
the same situation as Haiti.

I think we should help Chile rebuild as much as we possibly can, just
as we did with Haiti. I was simply responding to your point about
celebrity attention. Chile will not need the amount of help that Haiti
did. When hundreds of thousands of people die, you require more help.

It's called common sense.

Since when is mass destruction and death a political issue or argument anyway?

If people need help, they should get it. End of story.

Fair enough.
 

You have to remember there hasn't been a significant earthquake in Port-au-Prince in many, many years and the fact much of Port-au-Prince was a glorified shantytown in terms of building construction quality contributed to the shocking death toll in Haiti. They might as well call in Bechtel Corporation, bulldoze all of Port-au-Prince, and start all over again....
 
This earthquake was indeed, huge. As they say, it is the fifth stronger in recorded history, and it sure felt strong. I lived through the one in 1985 (which was a 7.8), and you could definitely feel the difference, even objectively if you evaluate the amount of objects falling off shelves.

It has been a tragic weekend. Thankfully, the death toll doesn't seem as high as it should have been expected- around 300 at the time - but they are tragic anyways, and the country is mourning them all.

In infrastructure, the damage was pretty bad in some zones. You have to take into account the topography of Chile, which is a narrow and long stripe of land, and most people leave towards the center, so this quake actually affected around 40% of the total population of the country.
The poorest zones got devastated, which I guess is to be expected with an 8.8 quake. Some buildings turned to rubble, but most of them withstood the movement.

The main highway connecting Chile got damaged at many points, but as we speak, detours have been put in place to bypass the broken points and the few bridges that were rendered unusable - of the literally hundreds of them. So, luckily, the aid from other cities might be able to get to the worse zones faster now.

There earthquake also cut communication in some zones, together with some basic services such as electricity and water. In the capital, electricity has been restored for around 80% of the population, while the rest of us have to wait patiently. According to what I know, almost everyone had water by yesterday.

The cut in communication in the south coastal zone of the affected territory had devastating consequences; as there was no immediate way to contact the population right after the quake arrived, the tsunami waves hit some small towns just minutes after (because of the proximity), removing some of them altogether and flooding others with heavy losses. The sea reportedly entered over 1km (around 0.7 miles) in some areas, leaving some big boats on the streets and killing inhabitants.

Aftershocks could literally be felt every hour yesterday, and every couple of hours now, with some of them being pretty intense. There are a couple of buildings that are on the verge of collapsing, and one of these smaller movements will definitely bring them to the ground.

Inside the houses which didn't suffer any structural damage, I guess almost everyone had significant material losses, as TV's, computers and other stuff literally blew off the counters. Almost all big businesses had to close for the time being, with supermarkets having the floors of every aisle littered with remnants of groceries and glass. Most of them are expected to start opening again today or tomorrow.

All in all, it has been a devastating event, but as has been said in this thread, we were prepared - as one can be prepared for this kind of event.
This disaster will in no way be similar to Haiti; you have to bear in mind they are an extremely poor country while we are on the other end of the scale of Latin American countries. It will take a couple of months until the damage can be repaired, but we will get there. Regrettably, those who died on this tragic incident will have no such chance. Hopefully we can learn from this big disaster in order to ensure we don't have to mourn deaths when we get hit again.

A big thanks to all of you who got concerned about us on these days, and not only about how the waves might or not affect you :).
 
This earthquake was indeed, huge. As they say, it is the fifth stronger in recorded history, and it sure felt strong. I lived through the one in 1985 (which was a 7.8), and you could definitely feel the difference, even objectively if you evaluate the amount of objects falling off shelves.

It has been a tragic weekend. Thankfully, the death toll doesn't seem as high as it should have been expected- around 300 at the time - but they are tragic anyways, and the country is mourning them all.

In infrastructure, the damage was pretty bad in some zones. You have to take into account the topography of Chile, which is a narrow and long stripe of land, and most people leave towards the center, so this quake actually affected around 40% of the total population of the country.
The poorest zones got devastated, which I guess is to be expected with an 8.8 quake. Some buildings turned to rubble, but most of them withstood the movement.

The main highway connecting Chile got damaged at many points, but as we speak, detours have been put in place to bypass the broken points and the few bridges that were rendered unusable - of the literally hundreds of them. So, luckily, the aid from other cities might be able to get to the worse zones faster now.

There earthquake also cut communication in some zones, together with some basic services such as electricity and water. In the capital, electricity has been restored for around 80% of the population, while the rest of us have to wait patiently. According to what I know, almost everyone had water by yesterday.

The cut in communication in the south coastal zone of the affected territory had devastating consequences; as there was no immediate way to contact the population right after the quake arrived, the tsunami waves hit some small towns just minutes after (because of the proximity), removing some of them altogether and flooding others with heavy losses. The sea reportedly entered over 1km (around 0.7 miles) in some areas, leaving some big boats on the streets and killing inhabitants.

Aftershocks could literally be felt every hour yesterday, and every couple of hours now, with some of them being pretty intense. There are a couple of buildings that are on the verge of collapsing, and one of these smaller movements will definitely bring them to the ground.

Inside the houses which didn't suffer any structural damage, I guess almost everyone had significant material losses, as TV's, computers and other stuff literally blew off the counters. Almost all big businesses had to close for the time being, with supermarkets having the floors of every aisle littered with remnants of groceries and glass. Most of them are expected to start opening again today or tomorrow.

All in all, it has been a devastating event, but as has been said in this thread, we were prepared - as one can be prepared for this kind of event.
This disaster will in no way be similar to Haiti; you have to bear in mind they are an extremely poor country while we are on the other end of the scale of Latin American countries. It will take a couple of months until the damage can be repaired, but we will get there. Regrettably, those who died on this tragic incident will have no such chance. Hopefully we can learn from this big disaster in order to ensure we don't have to mourn deaths when we get hit again.

A big thanks to all of you who got concerned about us on these days, and not only about how the waves might or not affect you :).

My prayers go out to you and those of your country. I hope you are all well. Hang in there and do your best to help others who may need it.
 
This earthquake was indeed, huge. As they say, it is the fifth stronger in recorded history, and it sure felt strong. I lived through the one in 1985 (which was a 7.8), and you could definitely feel the difference, even objectively if you evaluate the amount of objects falling off shelves.

It has been a tragic weekend. Thankfully, the death toll doesn't seem as high as it should have been expected- around 300 at the time - but they are tragic anyways, and the country is mourning them all.

Glad to hear that you are ok. I hope your family and friends are also well.
 
This earthquake was indeed, huge. As they say, it is the fifth stronger in recorded history, and it sure felt strong. I lived through the one in 1985 (which was a 7.8), and you could definitely feel the difference, even objectively if you evaluate the amount of objects falling off shelves.

It has been a tragic weekend. Thankfully, the death toll doesn't seem as high as it should have been expected- around 300 at the time - but they are tragic anyways, and the country is mourning them all.

A big thanks to all of you who got concerned about us on these days, and not only about how the waves might or not affect you :).

Glad to hear that!!:) i hope well for you, your family and your country.

Fuerza Chile!:D
 
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