China Killing Dogs To Prevent Rabies Spread

[2nyRiggz]

East, West, North and south.......Point is they bashed the poor dogs brains in...but if the owners don't say anything then why should I...Yet again I hate to see them kill rats and cows so whatever.





Bless

 

[Queso]

I have no pity for whatever animal gets slayed if it's to prevent breakouts of dangerous viruses/bacteria. Doesn't matter which part of the world it is. The consequences of breakouts can and will be catastrophic.

In Western culture, dogs are seen as valuable companions, aka pets. But in many Eastern cultures, dogs and cats alike are nothing more than livestock, and are eaten.

I'm going to tell you a story. In 2002 I visited my homeland, China and was invited to a dinner by my uncle and aunt. The main dish was puppy stew. My uncle and I were brought to the back where I had to choose a dog for my eating pleasures. Most of them were puppies from 1-3 years old for their tenderness. I picked a black one and 15 minutes later a waiter placed a stew of meat on our table. It had probably 10 pieces of meat along with other ingredients. It was the best stew i've ever had, ever! The meat had a natural distinct taste to it and it was good.

Don't get me wrong, I love pets, but I also like good eats. I own a cat and a dog and would never eat my own. But I personally have no problems eating them, I really don't. In the end, they're just animals like cow, pigs, and chicken.

Many Westerners get the misconception that Eastern people tend to be more cruel and cold blooded due to these practices, but try to think of them as cultural differences instead. 😀

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. That is so wrong on so many levels. 🙁

 

[mactastic]

I'm going to tell you a story. In 2002 I visited my homeland, China and was invited to a dinner by my uncle and aunt. The main dish was puppy stew. My uncle and I were brought to the back where I had to choose a dog for my eating pleasures. Most of them were puppies from 1-3 years old for their tenderness. I picked a black one and 15 minutes later a waiter placed a stew of meat on our table. It had probably 10 pieces of meat along with other ingredients. It was the best stew i've ever had, ever! The meat had a natural distinct taste to it and it was good.

That puppy most likely was slaughtered by cutting it's throat -- a far cry from beating it to death, would you not say?

Like I said, I've got no problem with slaughter methods that are designed to provide as quick a kill as possible. A club does not do that.

I'd like to know the reaction people would have if their pet chicken was killed in front of them. Kids having a dog in the west isn't the same as in the east.

Ok sure, that's a valid point. But if we're going to compare things, lets compare apples to apples and have the chicked beat to death in front of them, rather than the traditional cutting off of the head.

Remember the outrage over the PETA video of people mistreating chickens? Americans may not give a fig about PETA or it's politics, but they didn't like seeing animals mistreated for no reason. Even slaughter animals about to be killed.

And really that was the whole point here - not to debate the necessity of a cull, but rather the method.

 

[agreenster]

we butcher cows but we keep dogs like they were our own kids. i love america.

They'd have to kill me first, after I took a dozen of them out.

And let's be realistic: humans attribute higher worth to animals of higher intelligence. Chickens are dumb, only good for eating. Dogs are smart, they're good for lots of different things. And would I be opposed to someone killing someone's pet chicken? Yes. Because when a human's emotions are involved, it becomes real, and someone's pet shouldnt be beaten to death in front of them, especially without expecting a reaction. So maybe it isnt about the value of the animal, but the fact that it is a PET.

I would have no moral problem murdering someone who beat my dog to death.

Oh, and here's a genius idea: ENFORCE A RABIES VACCINATION POLICY for those who want to keep their dogs!

 

[mactastic]

Oh, and here's a genius idea: ENFORCE A RABIES VACCINATION POLICY for those who want to keep their dogs!

Bingo. And yes, I realize there are difficulties with implementing this, and that it will take time, but it can (and should) be done -- beginning immediately.

 

[agreenster]

If the owners fail to comply, then at least they had an opportunity to save their pets.

 

[John Jacob]

I'm not a massive animal lover, and I'm a bit suspicious of dogs due to earlier biteyness incidents, but surely there's a quicker and more humane way to kill them than clubbing them to death?

Don't Canadians do the same thing to seals? Why single out the Chinese?

 

[John Jacob]

And let's be realistic: humans attribute higher worth to animals of higher intelligence. Chickens are dumb, only good for eating. Dogs are smart, they're good for lots of different things.

Pigs are smarter than dogs, but somehow we seem to use them only for food.

Don't get me wrong, I love my doogies as much as the next guy; but Westerners seem to give them a higher position than other animals owing to their ubiquitous status as pets. It's a cultural thing.

 

[Lau]

Don't Canadians do the same thing to seals? Why single out the Chinese?

I'm not.

This thread was about dogs being clubbed to death in China, and I said I think the method is inhumane. If this thread was about seals being clubbed to death in Canada, I would have said the method was inhumane. I don't particularly care for dogs (put it this way, I've never been bitten by a seal 😛), and I'm not terribly sentimental about any animal. I'm just not sure clubbing any animal to death is a very nice thing to do.

 

[agreenster]

Pigs are smarter than dogs, but somehow we seem to use them only for food.

Don't get me wrong, I love my doogies as much as the next guy; but Westerners seem to give them a higher position than other animals owing to their ubiquitous status as pets. It's a cultural thing.

But its a cultural thing because its a human thing. Humans like dogs more than pigs. Why? Pigs arent predators. Humans also respect predators a lot more than "prey" animals. Cats, Dogs, etc.

But yeah, this outrage probably has a lot more to do with the clubbing and not the killing. Americans kill dogs all the time (humane shelters) but they do it quickly and painlessly.

 

[Leareth]

Don't Canadians do the same thing to seals? Why single out the Chinese?

No they don't for the last few years they have been exclusively shooting them. they actually get higher yields that way. and NO they don't kill baby seals ( the white ones) they haven't done that for a while, its just stupid propaganda perpetuated by Greenpeace, PETA...

As for china , it does not exatly have a good record of humane treatment of anything alive nor are they willing to change it anytime soon...

 

[macEfan]

*sigh* I hate hearing stories where pets die....


I feel bad for all those dog owners that got their pets killed. There has got to be a better way...

hm I wonder how many people hid their dogs so they wouldn't get killed..

 

[killuminati]

hm I wonder how many people hid their dogs so they wouldn't get killed..

The ones who tried probably ended up getting themselves killed.

 

[StephanieLin131]

Pigs are smarter than dogs, but somehow we seem to use them only for food.

Don't get me wrong, I love my doogies as much as the next guy; but Westerners seem to give them a higher position than other animals owing to their ubiquitous status as pets. It's a cultural thing.

People tend to give higher status to animals that display the most human-like characteristics. I can't love a pig or a rat or a cow the way I love my dogs and cats. And how do you assume pigs are smarter? That's a bold claim to make with nothing to back it up.
Show me a pig who can snuggle with me, smile at me, is happy when I come home at night, and would lay down it's life for me, and I will gladly concede my point. I think it's because of thier ability to show happiness in the same way humans do, to smile, that we can feel more emotionally connected to them. You could tell me that a pig grunts when it is happy, and I will beleive you and take you're word for it, but I won't feel nearly as warm and fuzzy inside when I hear the pig grunt at me as when my doggy smiles up at me and wags her tail after I come home. It's just not the same.

Reading this article, I can't help but feel like the guy who made these decisions just has some grudge against dogs. Maybe he had a bad experience as a child? In any case, there MUST be a more humane way do this. If they HAVE to kill the dogs, why beat them to death with a club? Oh right, because injections cost too much. Gotcha.

 

[Elowyn]

How to help stop the atrocity...

There is a petition hosted by Care2:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/131317412?ltl=1155228734

They are looking for 50,000 signatures and they have almost 43,000.

Also, a lot of people are not buying anything from China. I'm planning on doing that too.

Mactastic, I thought the same thing. They'd have to beat me to death too, because I wouldn't let them hurt my dog, cat, whatever.

 

[n8236]

LOL, not buying stuff from China? Ok. Maybe you should look around your house to find what is NOT made or from China 😀

 

[Elowyn]

hey macrumors..

actually, I did that and I know I might be doing without something. If that's what it takes, then it's what it takes. You can find items NOT made in China.

🙂

doh, meant to write: hey n8236 🙂