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Chinese Developers File Antitrust Complaint Against Apple for 'Monopolistic Behavior'
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That's never going to happen, because the Chinese are (state) capitalists. They can easily ban Apple from selling devices in their country if they don't apply with local regulations, whilst still manufacturing them over there.
That case was quite different. Google forced phone makers who licensed the android software to pre install default apps. Quite a bit different than if Google had those apps on the pixel, or Apple having apps on their own phone.
Not quite. Google forced phone makers who wanted to use the Google Play Store to pre-install default apps. Android is available for phone makers to use without Google apps. Lot's of OEM's go that route. Amazon did. So did Chinese OEMs.
Which is still irrelevant for Apple.
These phone companies wanted access to the play store. Google could say no, and nothing illegal happens. Google chose to say yes but force a bundle of apps with the play store. Which Russia foolishly deemed illegal.
Apple doesn't allow third party pones access to the App Store. That's not violating any law.
Well US plaintiffs have tried cases relating to App Store Monopoly in the good ol'US of A:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3157...-claims-of-monopoly-in-iphone-app-market.html
An appeals court has ruled that Apple must face antitrust charges in a lawsuit that alleges that the company monopolized the market for iPhone apps.
The U.S. Court for Appeals for the Ninth Circuit reversed Thursday a decision by a lower court and ruled that the app buyers filing the lawsuit are direct purchasers of iPhone apps from Apple, rather than from app developers, and hence have standing to sue. Apple was a distributor of iPhone apps, selling them directly to buyers through its App Store, according to the court.
Probably relevant:
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/01/12/14-15000.pdf
Even though I agree the Russian decision was without merit, that's a fairly odd characterization of access to the Play Store. It's also besides the point.
The point I was making was about the similarities regarding the claim of monopolistic behavior. Both cases made that claim and both are wrong in my opinion.
China is the last country that should accuse any western corporation of "monopoly". Their elite good old boy system and their propensity/history of disregarding copyright laws, makes this laughable.
Yeah no. That’s factually untrue. The full potential of the Chinese economy and the power of a middle class is nowhere near its full potential.
Remember, population-wise, China and India hold the most future sales potential.
Myopia is a terrible thing especially where it comes to business matters.
This is one reason for the removal. Hundreds of counterfeit branded shopping apps hit the App Store ahead of holiday season Most from china.
Don't be surprised if/when we find out the Chinese government was behind the whole thing, a way to get even more leverage over Apple, gain control over all apps on the store, and ultimately, make a case for an encryption backdoor, while outwardly making the appearance of being hands-off.
Many (not all) Chinese developers recycle and clone apps, making the App Store bloated.
And Apple is just trying to clean it up, remove all garbage apps that have been abandoned or that violate the App Store rules.
And Apple is just trying to clean it up, remove all garbage apps that have been abandoned or that violate the App Store rules.
Not sure I agree with this assessment completely. Those markets, especially in China will be dominated by localized goods. If China has any brain power and they generally do, they will protect their industry and economy by slowly converting to local supply instead of export supply. They are decades away from outsourcing supply and have a VERY strong system that supports buying local. And by local I don't mean stuff only manufactured in China by foreign interests. India is a different story, but I'd wager once they get their heads out they will follow the same path. Use cheap labor to build up an MFG infrastructure using foreign investment then transition to self supply while Africa begins to spin up.
Cook thinking that Apple will be a long-term success by depending on and trusting the Chinese government/market…..
….. is analogous to some Foolish American Tourist who "trusts" that he will remain safe for several weeks staying as a tourist in Pyongyang North Korea. Things are bound to go wrong. Horribly wrong. Eventually. It's just a matter of when.
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"by not responding to queries in Chinese"
Seriously?
They really think the whole world revolve around them, don't they now?
Seriously?
They really think the whole world revolve around them, don't they now?
Lol my morning coffee has long since expired for me to make sense of that. I hope Tim was very prepared with lots of native help. It would be fascinating to read about the process Apple went through to enter China. The groundwork to enter a completely different culture and mindset would have to be extensive given the billions of dollars he ultimately decided to commit to investing in entering China.
I'm half Asian, raised in America with a friendly southern influence thanks to all my neighbors transplanted from Virginia, West VA, and the Carolinas, and so my mom had to really do a significant amount of work to prepare me to meet my own grandmother for the first time. I did great, but at the tender age of 10, I had to wrap my mind around a completely different perspective so as to not commit any faux pas. Like don't hug your elders, ever. Not even your gran!
If I were CEO I wouldn't so much as open a small office in any Asian country without scoping out helpful natives to hire. Well, maybe Japan isn't too difficult.
But, they are to “protect their respect from others” and “keep a good image to the public” by all means so they will surely do something as guise to confuse everyone, even themselves. This is a basic skill for every Chinese I strongly believe.
This isn't a Bond movie, there can be more than one bad government at a given time.
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Exactly how in this case are they "bending over"?
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And you base that on what? Just your feeling, or on actual facts from Apple? Apple has been in China for 8 years already. They have to adapt to Chinese laws like all other countries they are entering into, and they are strict and not the same as is customary in "western" countries. And they have been threatened to not be able to sell their products if they try to disregard or circumvent the laws, which is the same threat they have faced in basically all countries including the US when they are at edge of laws.
Of course they have people in China who knows how to deal with the government and local resellers. And neither are the big threat to Apple. Apples bigger problem regarding iPhone in China is like in the rest of the world, other handset makers. That includes Samsung and for Chinas part especially Huawei. In other words it is the competition, not the government or lawmakers.
Maybe you should learn what a monopoly is. Nobody forced them to be a developer for the App Store. They signed up on their own so they have to follow Apples terms and conditions. They are free to leave if they don't agree.
[doublepost=1502462564][/doublepost]Apples App Store, Apples rules. There are other choices. No monopoly going on here.