Chinese Mobile Payment Service Alipay to Launch in the U.S.

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Alipay, the mobile payment system offered by Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba, is coming to the U.S., thanks to a deal brokered with credit card processing service First Data Corp.

    The expansion follows limited trials in California and New York, and will bring Alipay into direct competition with Apple Pay, Android Pay, and PayPal. Alongside online payments and money transfers, Alipay users can also hail a taxi, book a hotel, and buy movie tickets directly from within the app.


    The partnership will allow Chinese tourists who visit the U.S. to use their mobile phones to complete transactions at 4 million merchants and retailers around the country. That compares to about 4.5 million U.S. merchants that currently accept Apple Pay.

    The U.S. is behind China in terms of the proportion of customers using mobile payments, but that's forecast to change in 2018. As noted by Bloomberg, given U.S. consumer's relative indifference to mobile payments, Alipay's entry into the country may actually benefit Apple, as more retailers gear up to offer tap-and-go transactions to shoppers, be they Chinese tourists or U.S. residents.

    Alipay has about 450 million customers worldwide, but Alipay's deal with First Data aims to offset the mobile payment's loss of ground in China to rival Tencent Holdings, which has successfully leveraged the popularity of WeChat to roll out WeChat Pay. The WeChat app's dominance in the country is also said to have negatively affected the relevance of iOS features in China.

    In February, Apple partnered with China's state-run bankcard association, China Union Pay, enabling the lender's cardholders to use Apple Pay.

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  2. Shirasaki macrumors G3


    May 16, 2015
    Someone told me lack of sufficient regulation is the core reason Alipay could build such an enormous market in China.
    I have no idea about this claim though.
  3. TheRealTVGuy macrumors 6502a


    Jul 21, 2010
    Orlando, FL
    Is it me or has the world just gotten lazy when it comes to the naming schemes for all these ways to pay?

    We've gone from semi-creative names like Visa, American Express, and Discover to "insert-word/name-here Pay".
  4. uwdude macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2014
    Well there seems to be a problem with terminals being updated to have the chip capability and then Apple Pay doesn't work anymore. This is happening at McDonald's and some other places. The terminal wants the chip then if your account is associated with a chipped card.
  5. iZac, May 9, 2017
    Last edited: May 9, 2017

    iZac macrumors 68000


    Apr 28, 2003
    I almost exclusively use AliPay now. I use cash maybe once a week, and nearly any retailer that accepts cards have also purchased a POS unit that accepts AliPay and WeChat.

    Although "AliPay" is a lazy name, it is at least more internationally acceptable that the local name - "Zhi Fu Bao"
  6. jonnysods macrumors 603


    Sep 20, 2006
    There & Back Again
    Businesses are going to run out of space for all the stickers saying what payments they will accept!
  7. M2M macrumors 6502


    Jan 12, 2009
    Fast forward 20 years: companies have their own currencies and dollars, euros, yuan you can only find in museums. People use apple$, Sony-Cash and tencent-yen.
  8. Phil in ocala Suspended

    Phil in ocala

    Jul 14, 2016
    Chinese software...what could possibly go wrong?
  9. Nunyabinez macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2010
    Provo, UT
    很高心认识你!I'm in Shanghai right now, teaching at Shanghai Shi Da. I wish I had WeChat Wallet, but I just don't want to have to deal with the hassle of getting a Chinese bank card.

    Most foreigners (non Chinese) have no concept of how the Chinese use their phones to pay for things. They are way ahead of the rest of the world on this.

    Too bad Alipay didn't launch in the US sooner, I would love the convenience of using my phone instead of cash. I brought some students with me and they really want to use the rental bikes that line every street, but without WeChat they can't do it. Maybe on my next trip I'll be able to use Alipay.
  10. tmiw macrumors 68020

    Jun 26, 2007
    San Diego, CA
    I actually wouldn't be surprised if some QR code based system becomes the most popular in the US, even if it isn't necessarily Alipay. Besides the whole privacy thing, QR is supposedly easier for retailers to implement than NFC (from what I've heard anyway).
  11. tongxinshe macrumors 6502a

    Feb 24, 2008
    The three names you see here, their original Chinese names are actually not that “lazy”. I guess they are not familiar with the US culture and simply “played safe” when giving them English names.
  12. pratikindia macrumors 6502


    Apr 7, 2014
    Almost everyone uses Alipay in China. It has multiple payment options like Scan Pay, Sound Pay or bar code pay. There are tons of mini apps within Alipay to buy/pay almost everything. It can do a lot more than Apple Pay/Android Pay or PayPal combined.

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