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Chinese State-Run Press Slams Apple Over Warranty Criticisms

Mr.damien said:
If it's the same, why you don't go to live in China ?... :rolleyes
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I hate people who make comments like this. The ability to criticise is the lifeblood of any democracy. Without it we are mere robots.

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kas23 said:
Apparently the Chinese government didn't get the memo about Foxconn's record profits.
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Don't think this about that. It's about the Chinese government trying the slow down or stop the growth of Apple in China and instead encourage their people to buy products from Chinese owned companies instead.

Now ask yourself why? I wonder how easy it would be for the Chinese government to plant a secret bug inside every mobile phone made by a Chinese company so they could track what people are saying or track their whereabouts. Fantasy? The CIA doesn't think so as they said publicly recently. Just a thought.
 
WhoDaKat said:
Do the Chinese public buy into this crap? I see something on CNN or any news really, and I don't believe it until I've seen multiple sources, and then I'm still cynical. If the Chinese government was in charge of my news, I'd never believe anything they ever reported. Do the Chinese public actually listen and believe what is said on state run media? I would think state run media would almost be a joke to the general population that it serves.
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Maybe you are cynical because your own government lied to you in the past. WMD ring any bells, chemical weapons that can be ready in 45 minutes from trucks. This crap was said in front of the whole world at the UN.
 
This fits into the recent cyber attacks on Apple, other large prominent companies, and many large government systems, and the attacks were traced to a government military building in China. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/t...o-hacking-against-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

China has changed our economy (think about how many items in your house are "Made in China" versus 10-15 years ago), and not for the better.

China likes our money, but isn't our friend. Not to sound paranoid, but people forget that communism's long range goal is to rule the world. This has been put in the back seat for many years, but it is still very much a goal of China.
 
jrswizzle said:
Man, I'm so glad I live in a country where the government doesn't run the media
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Please... Most to All media is aligned to their own political agenda & propaganda.

Its kind of interesting to see Chinese government attempting to resist the Apple rush. Although it will end with them wasting their time and money in doing so. Russia tried to resist cultural influence and it just does not work, the youth will be the deciding factor. 2¢
 
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photographypro said:
China has changed our economy (think about how many items in your house are "Made in China" versus 10-15 years ago), and not for the better.

China likes our money, but isn't our friend. Not to sound paranoid, but people forget that communism's long range goal is to rule the world. This has been put in the back seat for many years, but it is still very much a goal of China.
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I substituted a couple words - pretty cool

Apple has changed our economy (think about how many items in your house are "Made by Apple" versus 10-15 years ago), and not for the better.

Apple likes our money, but isn't our friend. Not to sound paranoid, but people forget that commercialism's long range goal is to rule the world. This has been put in the back seat for many years, but it is still very much a goal of Apple.​
 
[/QUOTE] China has changed our economy (think about how many items in your house are "Made in China" versus 10-15 years ago), and not for the better.

China likes our money, but isn't our friend. Not to sound paranoid, but people forget that communism's long range goal is to rule the world. This has been put in the back seat for many years, but it is still very much a goal of China.[/QUOTE]

Every dollar an American spends to buy something made in China is a dollar the Chinese (or some intermediary) must necessarily spend in the United States, since a dollar is legal tender only in the U.S. (and in a few tiny countries without their own independent currency). Unlike the Japanese when they had a large positive trade imbalance with the U.S. some 30 ago, the Chinese haven't bought real estate, but rather, to a great extent, U.S. Treasury obligations. It's a funny thing when a supposedly aggressive communist state plots to rule the world by funding its governments. And China can't "dump" their holdings without costing themselves billions.

All China gets is to employ more of their huge population, keeping them happier and less rebellious. The U.S. gets very cheap capital in return, and were there a whiff of demand in the air, the U.S. could invest in capital and infrastructure improvements at the cheapest cost of capital in ages. But companies don't see enough demand to hire or to build factories, and the government is stymied by conservatives who confuse government finance with kitchen table budgeting.

How ironic that the capitalists could grow at the expense of the communists if they could only manage capital.
 
Consultant said:
China is in a different position now, but this is what happened the last time Chinese went against foreigners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_revolution
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The late Qing dynasty isn't really comparable to the present day...

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JavaTheHut said:
Its kind of interesting to see Chinese government attempting to resist the Apple rush.
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I don't think they are, I think they are criticising Apple for their crap warranties - which to be honest is fair enough.
 
Well I went to the store pictured above today (王府井) to replace my iPhone 5 due to dust on the sensor. They replaced it with a new/refurb handset within minutes of being seen to. Same service I have experienced in England.

Fortunately I can speak Chinese, but this genius could speak english, which I'm sure would be a huge help for most tourists wanting some assistance.
 
jrswizzle said:
Man, I'm so glad I live in a country where the government doesn't run the media
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A lot of Western countries have state broadcasters/media - even the United States:

Canada - CBC
UK - BBC
France - AFP (Partially)
USA - Voice of America

China has state broadcasters but also several private news agencies too.



WhoDaKat said:
Do the Chinese public buy into this crap? I see something on CNN or any news really, and I don't believe it until I've seen multiple sources, and then I'm still cynical.
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I don't think they buy it entirely; I have a subscription to CCTV and the news isn't all that bias, no more so than CNN or any other major American news outlet. The Chinese (at least savvy ones) do have access to multiple media sources through the Internet and there are a few independent media organizations in China. But the Chinese like Americans seem to have blind patriotism ... so perhaps that's where some of the spin rubs off wrong with people overseas.
 
kas23 said:
Apparently the Chinese government didn't get the memo about Foxconn's record profits.
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Foxconn is a Taiwanese company.

Yes, they have vast manufacturing facilities in the People's Republic, but ultimately the profits go back to the ROC.
 
coolspot18 said:
A lot of Western countries have state broadcasters/media - even the United States:

Canada - CBC
UK - BBC
France - AFP (Partially)
USA - Voice of America....
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Actually, unlike the Chinese state media, Voice of America is an external broadcaster the transmissions of which are directed to other countries, most often in language chosen to be understandable to non-English or non-native-English speakers. The VOA is now run by an independent board made up of members from both major political parties. (In the U.S., unlike in China, the government is composed of institutions controlled by members of political parties and sub-parties having widely divergent and strongly stated views.)

Even though a motivated American can listen to VOA transmissions on the web or by shortwave radio, it is hardly an effective medium for influencing Americans living in the U.S.

Without commenting on the reliability of Chinese state-run broadcasts or the level of access to non-government-controlled media in China generally, I think it's fair to say that the VOA is nothing like Chinese state-sponsored internal broadcasting.

In my experience whether a broadcaster is supplying objective news or propaganda is largely a function of the degree to which the listener agrees with the substance of the broadcast.
 
AppliedMicro said:
1. As CNET reports, it is alleged that Apple repairs iPhones by only swapping defective parts, instead of swapping entire units - which they do in other countries. Macworld.co.uk corroborates this:

"The programme claimed that Apple is breaking Chinese law by not replacing damaged iPhones with a completely new model. It maintained that Apple replaces parts of the iPhone but returns it with the old phone’s back cover"

If this claim is true, if Apple really do repairs rather than full unit swaps, this means that the entire service process takes longer - for the customer. Customers have to wait longer to get their working iPhones back.
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In Canada, a number of repairs on iphones are done by repairing the damaged component as opposed to swapping the whole unit. Some speaker modules, some screens, and some vibration motors can all be repaired without swapping the unit, for example (depends on the model of iphone of course). And as far as I know this does not break any rule or law for warranties. Warranties do not require a swap. And why should they? If part A of the phone is broken and everything else is fine, and part A is easily replaceable, why replace the whole phone? And sure, that might take longer than a swap, but most repairs on an iphone are very quick. Just saying. :)
 
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