Chrome Browsers on Macbook Air 13"

[gwsat]

Safari has done that for ages. Turn it on in Settings > Autofill.

There is no such thing as "Settings" in Safari, at least I didn't find one. I believe what you meant to say was that Autofill can be used to save passwords by going to Preferences in the Safari menu and then clicking the Autofill icon. One of the choices in Autofill is "User names and passwords." I didn't take the time to check it out but it looks like it should work. The only possible difference I saw is that Chrome will always prompt you for permission before it setsup a user name, password combination to be automatically entered. Does Safari do that?

 

[johannnn]

Autofill can be used to save passwords by going to Preferences in the Chrome menu and then clicking the Autofill icon.

Safari menu.

I didn't take the time to check it out but it looks like it should work.

It takes 30 sec to test but I can assure you it works.

The only possible difference I saw is that Chrome will always prompt you for permission before it setsup a user name, password combination to be automatically entered. Does Safari do that?

It does when the keychain is locked. Safari uses Keychain.app and thus its behavior is consistent with password management in the rest of OS X.

 

[ciaran00]

Use Safari on my personal account, but Chrome in my work account so that I have auto bookmark sync with my Windows machine.

I sync personal bookmarks to all Safaris via Mobile Me.

I like Chrome.. it's fast and efficient, but if you have a choice I'm not sure why you wouldn't pick Safari. Chrome has a lot of annoying things to it, like lack of a bookmark panel, and the ridiculous spacing between each line in the bookmarks dropdown. It also doesn't have password sync, but Chromium has it, so it will come over.

And you could always install IE, lol..

 

[KnightWRX]

I like Chrome.. it's fast and efficient, but if you have a choice I'm not sure why you wouldn't pick Safari.

Because Safari tends to use older builds of Webkit then Chrome. Their Javascript engine is slower. For the longest time, they didn't have extensions, requiring things like Glimmerblocker for Adblocking which is a proxy server type kludge hack.

And the GUI isn't at all nice, I find Chrome much more polished and Firefox much more versatile. Not to mention Safari doesn't really offer any integration benefits to people who don't use MobileMe.

 

[johannnn]

I like Chrome.. it's fast and efficient, but if you have a choice I'm not sure why you wouldn't pick Safari.

Let's start by mentioning three gripes.
* Still doesn't open new tabs next to parent tab, all other major browsers does this nowadays.
* Still doesn't remember the history in each tab when Safari crashes or just closes, so if it crashes looking at a picture you can't go back to the site from where you clicked the picture.
* Still doesn't manage memory well, Safari is a well known memory hog.

Chrome has a lot of annoying things to it, like lack of a bookmark panel

Chrome has what Safari has, a bookmark manager, a bookmark bar, and a bookmark dropdown menu.

and the ridiculous spacing between each line in the bookmarks dropdown.

The spacing is the same.

It also doesn't have password sync, but Chromium has it, so it will come over.

Chrome has this, get the newest version.

For the longest time, they didn't have extensions, requiring things like Glimmerblocker for Adblocking which is a proxy server type kludge hack.

First of all, how is the state one year ago relevant today?
Second, "proxy server type kludge hack" was never required. I myself for the longest time used a userstyle adblock and then the popular adblock plugin.

And the GUI isn't at all nice, I find Chrome much more polished and Firefox much more versatile.

It can start by following Apples Human Interface Guidelines.

 

[KnightWRX]

It can start by following Apples Human Interface Guidelines.

The guidelines even Apple doesn't follow ? Yeah, let's hold other vendors to a different standard.

 

[gwsat]

I note that this debate over whether Chrome, Safari, or Firefox is the superior browser seems to focus on minutiae. That's a good thing, it seems to me. It means that all three browsers are really quite good. The only reason I shifted from Safari to Chrome was Safari's irritating practice of taking so long to open the first Web page when Safari was reopened after a reboot. Otherwise, it was just fine. I stick with Chrome because it has satisfied my needs but going back to Safari or moving on to Firefox would not be particularly earth shaking, either. I'm just glad there are so many good choices out there.

 

[johannnn]

The only reason I shifted from Safari to Chrome was Safari's irritating practice of taking so long to open the first Web page when Safari was reopened after a reboot.

Taking "a couple of minutes" as you stated earlier in this thread is not normal, have you googled this behavior? If it was me I'd prefer to find and solve the problem rather than hiding it by switching browser.

 

[eyespii]

chrome omnibar. this alone keeps me with chrome over safari.

 

[gwsat]

After my last post, I decided to reboot my MBA and load Safari immediately thereafter to determine if it still took as long to load my home page, IMDb, as had been the case when I last tested Safari, many months ago. I learned to my surprise and delight that the problem seems to have been solved in version 5.0.3. At any rate, IMDb opened quickly, although I had just rebooted and reopened Safari.

Unless I just didn't find it, Safari, lacks the capability to remember and reopen the Tabs that were open when it last closed. Chrome does this by default and I have come to rely on it. Is there a way to make Safari do this that I just didn't find? Based on what I have seen, Safari's use of Tabs is neither intuitive nor easy.

 

[johannnn]

Unless I just didn't find it, Safari, lacks the capability to remember and reopen the Tabs that were open when it last closed. Chrome does this by default and I have come to rely on it. Is there a way to make Safari do this that I just didn't find?

http://www.pimpmysafari.com/blog/save-and-restore-tabs-in-safari-5 First the built in way, but please remember that the history IN each tab is not remembered. The last two is Safari 5 extensions you can try.

 

[gwsat]

http://www.pimpmysafari.com/blog/save-and-restore-tabs-in-safari-5 First the built in way, but please remember that the history IN each tab is not remembered. The last two is Safari 5 extensions you can try.

Thanks for the link but the utility it describes wouldn't work for me because, apparently, it has to be reset every time you open Safari. Safari's inability to be permanently set to reopen the tabs that were open when it last closed is a deal breaker for me. That's one of the reasons why I shifted to the Atomic Browser for iPad. Let's face it, Safari simply isn't very good for those who like to have tabs open by default.

 

[The General]

Then explain this picture http://i.imgur.com/YJnH0.png. The whole idea of having tabs where Chrome does is to get a narrower toolbar. (Note: Chrome is narrower even when the bookmark bar in Safari is turned off)

Hmm... maybe I was using a different build of Chromium at the time, but now they appear to take up the exact same height with URL+tabs+bookmarks.

Explain why fullscreen is less usefull. With the release of Lion and Steve Jobs mentioning of fullscreen apps, Safari will most most likely gain fullscreen too.

Because I do more than one thing at a time. I'm not exactly thrilled about Lion either.

 

[johannnn]

Thanks for the link but the utility it describes wouldn't work for me because, apparently, it has to be reset every time you open Safari. Safari's inability to be permanently set to reopen the tabs that were open when it last closed is a deal breaker for me.

This is only true when Safari is not running and then started. However, Safari should usually be running, in particular for Mac users as they don't reboot their computers as often as Windows users. I really don't understand why you quit/start your browsers so often that this functionality is a deal breaker.

That's one of the reasons why I shifted to the Atomic Browser for iPad.

Safari for iOS reopens all tabs by default.

Let's face it, Safari simply isn't very good for those who like to have tabs open by default.

As I linked it can easily be fixed with extensions.

 

[KnightWRX]

Because I do more than one thing at a time. I'm not exactly thrilled about Lion either.

Then don't use it ? It's not a bad thing that it's there as an option. Options are never a bad thing.

 

[Neolithium]

Then don't use it ? It's not a bad thing that it's there as an option. Options are never a bad thing.

True. I doubt I'd use fullscreen for more than 1 or 2 apps at BEST. Having the option to do it is nice, but I do too much multitasking to really bother with it, hell I don't even game fullscreen

 

[gwsat]

This is only true when Safari is not running and then started. However, Safari should usually be running, in particular for Mac users as they don't reboot their computers as often as Windows users. I really don't understand why you quit/start your browsers so often that this functionality is a deal breaker.

As I linked it can easily be fixed with extensions.

It's pretty clear to me at least that the need for previously open tabs to be reopened when a browser restarts only arises when it does restart. It doesn't happen to me very often, either, but having tabs reopen by default, a utility that Chrome provides but Safari does not, saves me a lot of hassle. Maybe I could do this in Safari by fooling with extensions but why should I when Chrome is so good at the job? I stand my opinion that Safari simply doesn't handle tabs as well as Chrome does. Unless I am mistaken, this seems to be what most users think who are familiar with both.

 

[KnightWRX]

True. I doubt I'd use fullscreen for more than 1 or 2 apps at BEST. Having the option to do it is nice, but I do too much multitasking to really bother with it, hell I don't even game fullscreen

You wouldn't catch me dead with anything but a game fullscreen. I do prefer my games fullscreen, immersion and all, but coding/browsing/anything is window based and usually the things get stacked pretty much. I use Spaces a lot, put the coding stuff on one space, the browsing on another, etc..

I really hope Command Central or whatever it is they call the new mishmash of Expose/Space/Fullscreen crap doesn't mess too much with my workflow.

 

[gloryunited]

I'm using Safari with ClickToFlash and AdBlock and all I can say, this is what you guys have been dreaming about

I like ClickToFlash which gives me the option to load certain flash content easily. But I also like the "address bar" in Chrome which works as the Google search bar At The Same Time. whereas in Safari, if you want to google something in a new tab, you have to first press Tab (going to the search field) and then type.