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Chrome for iOS Getting Feature That Lets Saved Passwords Be Used in Other Apps

Vroem said:
Google gets paid by placing ads. While deciding what ad to place, they broadcast your profile to the highest bidder. This process is repeated every time you visit a page with ads. I totally simplified it by saying it like that, but that's essentially what happens with people's profile these days.
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Google sells access to your eyeballs. This is very different from "selling your information", which is what a lot of other companies actually do, including many in the off-line world. For example, it's very easy to buy a mailing list. Years ago I used to buy targeted mailing lists from various magazines.

Some people just need to make Google out to be the bad guy. Apple fans used to hate Microsoft. Now they hate Google. They always need someone to hate. And just like they (myself included) spun FUD about Microsoft back in the day, today they do the same with Google. Truth is, Google isn't nearly the worst offender. As I mentioned in another post, the Weather Channel is really shady and is being sued over their shady practices. There are many apps and services on the App Store today that make what Google does pale in comparison.

Selling your information would be the stupidest thing Google could do. That's their biggest asset. I'm not a huge fan of what they do, but I'm also tired of the ignorant, ill-informed fanboy narrative that Google is broadcasting your private information to the world. They are not. They are gathering information and building a profile about you. The more information they gather, the more valuable the profile becomes. They use that profile to feed you ads. They never sell that profile information to third parties.
 
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rwxx said:
Google sells access to your eyeballs. This is very different from "selling your information", which is what a lot of other companies actually do, including many in the off-line world. For example, it's very easy to buy a mailing list. Years ago I used to buy targeted mailing lists from various magazines.

Some people just need to make Google out to be the bad guy. Apple fans used to hate Microsoft. Now they hate Google. They always need someone to hate. And just like they (myself included) spun FUD about Microsoft back in the day, today they do the same with Google. Truth is, Google isn't nearly the worst offender. As I mentioned in another post, the Weather Channel is really shady and is being sued over their shady practices. There are many apps and services on the App Store today that make what Google does pale in comparison.

Selling your information would be the stupidest thing Google could do. That's their biggest asset. I'm not a huge fan of what they do, but I'm also tired of the ignorant, ill-informed fanboy narrative that Google is broadcasting your private information to the world. They are not. They are gathering information and building a profile about you. The more information they gather, the more valuable the profile becomes. They use that profile to feed you ads. They never sell that profile information to third parties.
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And whats not to say they wont mine the data from list of sites you saved passwords for? Yes I get you visit the sites already but there is data they can compile and use for ads.

It doesnt make it right no matter what you call it. If you dont buy the product you are the product.

Apple can offer it because you pay for the hardware; and they arent a data/ad revenue company. Even Microsoft arguably can offer a default browser with less intrusion because you bought a windows PC. You buy nothing from Google though (from an iOS/desktop standpoint not Android- and even then they dont charge for the OS so you are still the product)

And no that doesnt mean you should never use Google search etc. Its inevitable for many. But passwords are a whole other story and Google earned their reputation of being untrustworthy.

And Apple is dealing with rogue apps. The "dont use precise location" in iOS14 is proof of this. They now get a very rough location area now. No reason you need to give your location for weather, most let you do it by zip; that is close enough to 99.9% of people.

Its easy to say just police 2 million apps and what each dev does, but its easier said than done. Some apps (liek say navigation using location) NEED that data to work at all. And then who decides what apps can or cant get certain data
 
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Chrome is slowly turning into Internet Explorer...
I remember the days it was supposed to be this new innovative lightweight and fast browser.
 
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rwxx said:
Google sells access to your eyeballs. This is very different from "selling your information", which is what a lot of other companies actually do, including many in the off-line world. For example, it's very easy to buy a mailing list. Years ago I used to buy targeted mailing lists from various magazines.

Some people just need to make Google out to be the bad guy. Apple fans used to hate Microsoft. Now they hate Google. They always need someone to hate. And just like they (myself included) spun FUD about Microsoft back in the day, today they do the same with Google. Truth is, Google isn't nearly the worst offender. As I mentioned in another post, the Weather Channel is really shady and is being sued over their shady practices. There are many apps and services on the App Store today that make what Google does pale in comparison.

Selling your information would be the stupidest thing Google could do. That's their biggest asset. I'm not a huge fan of what they do, but I'm also tired of the ignorant, ill-informed fanboy narrative that Google is broadcasting your private information to the world. They are not. They are gathering information and building a profile about you. The more information they gather, the more valuable the profile becomes. They use that profile to feed you ads. They never sell that profile information to third parties.
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If you naively think that’s all Google does, then I’ll just leave this here.

Privacy concerns with Google - Wikipedia

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(Just seriously wondering aka not trolling): what is the advantage or the reason for someone to use a third party password manager like 1password, Chrome, etc when the feature is baked in natively in macOS and iOS?
 
arnoz said:
(Just seriously wondering aka not trolling): what is the advantage or the reason for someone to use a third party password manager like 1password, Chrome, etc when the feature is baked in natively in macOS and iOS?
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Cross platform. MacOS and iOS keychain is not cross platform.
 
arnoz said:
(Just seriously wondering aka not trolling): what is the advantage or the reason for someone to use a third party password manager like 1password, Chrome, etc when the feature is baked in natively in macOS and iOS?
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Check out any 1Password or LastPass thread, this question comes up very often. But here are some of the many reasons I use 1Password over keychain:

  • Cross-platform, including web access. I can get my password any where I want
  • Cross-web browser. I have been using Edge lately and I like it. I don't want to be restricted to Safari
  • Shared password vaults. I can create logins and share them with others in my family. For example, my whole family has access to our Netflix, HBOMax, etc. passwords, but only my wife and i have access to our Banking accounts. And, of course, I have plenty of passwords in my personal vault.
Others include, a better UI, ability to save more than passwords, and saving 2FA codes.
 
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arnoz said:
(Just seriously wondering aka not trolling): what is the advantage or the reason for someone to use a third party password manager like 1password, Chrome, etc when the feature is baked in natively in macOS and iOS?
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#1 is most iOS users dont use a Mac by the numbers. There are 1.5 billion iOS devices active and only 100 million active Macs. So only 6-7% of iOS users (of course on the assumption each only has 1 iOS device; just for rough number purposes) use a Mac. Its under 10% lets say factoring in some own a phone and ipad

So cross-platform is a big thing. Could they do it via iCloud app on Windows? I dont know and doubt they have an incentive to.
 
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I like this a lot! I have a hard enough time getting family and friends to use a password manager but they don't mind Chrome storing the passwords.

Chrome also has the passphrase option that makes your passwords end to end encrypted so Google snooping on your passwords is much less of a problem. And being able to use the passwords from Chrome on all apps will be useful to them.
 
But what happens if chrome is logged into several different google accounts? Which passwords are shared via iOS to apps ? I have different accounts/people with different passwords. I find it helpful to keep my passwords separated that way.
 
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