I just got back from a mall nearby, and on my way out I passed a cingular store and decided to go in and ask about the iPhone just for the hell of it. The response was rather shocking. As i brought up the iPhone, he cut me off and said "it's not coming out anymore". I was like, wait wat?.. He explained how his manager went to a conference in vegas where they claimed that cingular will no longer release it as it has too many flaws and it will either not come out at all or be delayed for about a year. Now we all know cingular sales in PDA/Smartphones are going down because everyone is waiting for the iPhone, so my immediate thought is that the higher ranks in cingular are now telling all employees that the iPhone is no longer coming out or will be delayed for a large amount of time so that the sales in other pda/smartphones will go back up. If i was an idiot, i'd probably fall for it and go with the cingular 8525, but for one i will never get a windows mobile fone, and two.. it's DEF still releasing. f'n idiot..