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Cingular Ties, Several More iPhone Models? And More Details...
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Now I really wonder if this phone will ever reach Belgium : locked phones are forbidden here, as are contracted phones (you must have the freedom here to choose your own divider).
Imho the iPhone business sounds more and more like serious BS, I hope Apple will realise this in time so all this niceness doesn't go the newton way...
Imho the iPhone business sounds more and more like serious BS, I hope Apple will realise this in time so all this niceness doesn't go the newton way...
Consumers are so stupid these days that it will likely succeed anyway. It might even be a smart move to completely lock the phone from a business perspective. Apple will sell additionall widget, games etc. Also they will get royalties from every third party app they allow to run on this thing. All of this of course marketed as superb user experience.
the more i read about it, the less i want it...
the more it seems like it should be $399 because it's an 8GB flash ipod that happens to have phone capabilities.
said it before, i'll say it again. i have a phone, i have an ipod. i have a macbook pro. what can this offer me that those other three are lacking?
the more it seems like it should be $399 because it's an 8GB flash ipod that happens to have phone capabilities.
said it before, i'll say it again. i have a phone, i have an ipod. i have a macbook pro. what can this offer me that those other three are lacking?
MacWorld UK now says that, according to Apple, VoIP has been left out due to the upcoming legal fuzz with Cisco, since their patent includes the VoIP-enabled devices they introduced last month. Guess that won't rule out the technical possibility of using the iPhone as a VoIP phone.
So many rumours...
I will rather chose which apps get installed and pay for each single one, than having to buy all of them without needing most of them anyway but getting charged for the complete package.
So many rumours...
I will rather chose which apps get installed and pay for each single one, than having to buy all of them without needing most of them anyway but getting charged for the complete package.
MacWorld UK now says that, according to Apple, VoIP has been left out due to the upcoming legal fuzz with Cisco, since their patent includes the VoIP-enabled devices they introduced last month. Guess that won't rule out the technical possibility of using the iPhone as a VoIP phone.
So many rumours...
Hrmm...I guess Cisco is going to sue Nokia because my E61 does VoIP.
Rumors, rumors, rumors. I love macrumors.
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Does that mean that in the US you won't be able to get the iPhone on any other network until 2009? If so, will they do the same in the UK? I am dreading this because Orange are useless in getting new 'phones in so they won't be the first here, I'm pretty sure. Wasn't the Motorola ROKR an exclusive to O2 when it was released?
Does that mean that in the US you won't be able to get the iPhone on any other network until 2009? If so, will they do the same in the UK? I am dreading this because Orange are useless in getting new 'phones in so they won't be the first here, I'm pretty sure. Wasn't the Motorola ROKR an exclusive to O2 when it was released?
The 'no iTunes songs as ringtones' things sounds either like a record company contract thing (they make a lot of their money licensing stupid 30 second clips to ringtones companies), or it's because Cingular want to sell you their stupid 30 second ringtones instead. Networks like Vodafone in the UK open cripple the ringtone capabilities of a phone so they can make money through ringtones.
Whichever it is, I hope you get round it. The more I'm finding out about the iPhone though, the less I want it.
Limiting 3rd party development on it is blatantly down to Cingular not wanting a Skype app appearing on it as well.
Whichever it is, I hope you get round it. The more I'm finding out about the iPhone though, the less I want it.
Limiting 3rd party development on it is blatantly down to Cingular not wanting a Skype app appearing on it as well.
I'm not going to buy an iPhone if I am forced to enter a pay monthly contract to use it.
I don't use my phone enough to justify a £20+ monthly fee.
Imo, Apple will be shooting themselves in the foot if they force people to buy iPhones locked to a single network and don't offer pay as you go service plans because there are thousands of potential buyers out there like me who would snap the iPhone up if it was a one off payment with pay as you go service thereafter but are unwilling to enter a contract deal.
I don't use my phone enough to justify a £20+ monthly fee.
Imo, Apple will be shooting themselves in the foot if they force people to buy iPhones locked to a single network and don't offer pay as you go service plans because there are thousands of potential buyers out there like me who would snap the iPhone up if it was a one off payment with pay as you go service thereafter but are unwilling to enter a contract deal.
Unlocking these phones will be easier than unlocking a RAZR.
No need to worry
DMann, is everything you're saying fact or just your own speculation?
I think that's just Cingular BSing the media. There is absolutely no point in locking the phones since it's perfectly legal to unlock them by any means, even in the US. Maybe Cingular insisted that Apple include some sort of "lock" but it's the least of any potential worries, and I would reserve judgment until Apple itself says one way or the other.
god save my soul...never thought I would see the demise of apple as a innovative company.
cool gui interface, but wait!
- no 3rd party apps (you dont need them, because we said so!)
- no ringtones from music from itunes (so Cingular can make more by charging for lower quality ringtones? whats up?)
- now in Europe some company called O2 wants to be exlusive.
(Im in Hungary and have heard of Vodaphone and T-Mobile...whoe the ***is O2. Knowing my luck, O2 will win, and I wont have to worry about the iphone.)
- no purchasing music from the iphone from itunes, etc. etc.
Steve what is up with you?
Time for me to start my own company I see. At least make a product like I would want. (kind of like the dude from oakley who is making his own video camera cause he got tired of what the industry giants offered...and it blows them away. check out red.com for the new 4k camera, higher than High definition my friends.)
Peace
dAlen
cool gui interface, but wait!
- no 3rd party apps (you dont need them, because we said so!)
- no ringtones from music from itunes (so Cingular can make more by charging for lower quality ringtones? whats up?)
- now in Europe some company called O2 wants to be exlusive.
(Im in Hungary and have heard of Vodaphone and T-Mobile...whoe the ***is O2. Knowing my luck, O2 will win, and I wont have to worry about the iphone.)
- no purchasing music from the iphone from itunes, etc. etc.
Steve what is up with you?
Time for me to start my own company I see. At least make a product like I would want. (kind of like the dude from oakley who is making his own video camera cause he got tired of what the industry giants offered...and it blows them away. check out red.com for the new 4k camera, higher than High definition my friends.)
Peace
dAlen
So no songs as ringtones? I expected the ability to assign a different ringtone to every person in my contacts! What's the use of 8Gb of music then? Isn't it all about integration?
I expected the ability to assign a different ringtone to every person in my contacts! What's the use of 8Gb of music then? Isn't it all about integration?
So no songs as ringtones?
But then Cingular can't make more money selling you ringtones for your phone. Which is an inexplicable multi-million dollar industry.
After a recent DMCA update, I believe, carriers now have to make it possible to unlock their phones. Would this apply in this situation?
I think that this phone is so expensive to produce, that steve had to sign such contracts.
cingular, google, yahoo, no ringtones and so on. The price is freedom.
It's too early for that kind of technologie and truely 5 years ahead of everything else.
An unlocked version that can do all you want would perhaps cost 1000$ and who would buy this? nobody.
But I'm looking forward to my 100gig multitouch true video iPod.
Dave
cingular, google, yahoo, no ringtones and so on. The price is freedom.
It's too early for that kind of technologie and truely 5 years ahead of everything else.
An unlocked version that can do all you want would perhaps cost 1000$ and who would buy this? nobody.
But I'm looking forward to my 100gig multitouch true video iPod.
Dave
MacWorld UK now says that, according to Apple, VoIP has been left out due to the upcoming legal fuzz with Cisco, since their patent includes the VoIP-enabled devices they introduced last month. Guess that won't rule out the technical possibility of using the iPhone as a VoIP phone.
So many rumours...
It is sooo sad that Apple would sacrifice VOIP cabaility just to call it iPhone. It's a beautiful piece of tech, but way too much BS. What is Steve Jobs thinking?
I'm gonna get the Nokia N95.
It's built-in GPS, navigation for 100 countries, 5 megapixel camera with autofocus and DVD-quality video recording are more appealing. It still has a Safari-based browser and with HSDPA at 3.6 Mbit, it's connected features work at a usable speed!
So no songs as ringtones?
now that is innovative...never thought about it. (but I dont own a phone or cell...well I use skype-in/out)
love the idea of having tones per person...you can recognize who is calling you, and have a silent one for those not on your contact...(i.e. ignore.)
Peace
dAlen
