I suspect as Apple rolls this out, the existing CC companies and banks will come out with programs that minimize any real impact.
I like the Apple Card in theory, but there are already no-fee 2% cash-back credit cards out there. I have two of them, and use one of them for virtually all purchases. In a family of six, that 2% really adds up over the course of a year. I can't see using the Apple Card unless Apple increases the cash-back rate for the physical card.
This is not evidence and you're being criticized because no one outside of Apple has applied for the Apple card. The only thing you can currently do is signup to be emailed Apple Card updates. The product's website still says it's coming this summer.I remember hearing reports from multiple people saying they were declined with scores in the mid to upper 700s. Haven't followed up since. Feel free to provide evidence instead of criticizing my comment.
It's more like Tim Apple running out of ideas for his "pipeline" and going after ultra-legacy credit territory that isn't even scalable outside of the US (unlike Apple Pay).
Maybe the local US market rejoiced with one more piece of plastic complemented by cute UI, but this announcement has sure left the rest of the world cold.
I would normally agree however they are betting Apple Credit Card won’t last long and the plug will be pulled in a few years.
Yeah using Apple Pay at restaurants can be difficult, but if you're ordering takeout I use Seamless and Doordash all the time, which accept Apple Pay.I already have two credit cards and don't really desire a third, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering this. It looks cool, has good terms and if I end up not using it, no harm at all.
I do wish they paid at least 1.5% cash back on physical card (non-Apple Pay) transactions, though. Chase gives me 1.5% cash back on everything, and Apple Pay acceptance is very hit or miss around here. Particularly restaurants tend to not take Apple Pay.
You see, that would have been a better response. I don't know anything about it other than what people were saying online. It was anecdotal. Just because it's not out doesn't mean those people weren't saying stuff. Who knows, maybe it was haters. I clearly remember there being backlash about that. Clearly those people were wrong. Fake news everywhere these days.The card isn't out yet, how were people declined?
See a few posts above.The card is not available to the public yet. As of today no one outside Apple has been approved or declined.
See a few posts above.The card is not available to the public yet. As of today no one outside Apple has been approved or declined.
The Apple Card is made of titanium, not plastic.
And it's not called Apple "Credit" Card for a reason. I believe it's not just a credit card with a fancy design, but a card that can help consumers take back control, doing it better than all credit card companies combined.
You need to have a grander vision to see the truth.
I read the T&C's of the Apple Card.
This is how it measures for my financial use case:
- 3% on purchases on Apple, brick-and-mortar or website. [My 100% Con: Apple charges state taxes (6% on my region) so my incentive is to tailor significant Apple product purchase from B&H (no tax, no shipping charge).]
#1 will not be the case in the near future. Out of state sales taxes are coming soon to an internet store near you. B&H will definitely be one of them that will be required to collect out of state (I am guessing you are PA with the 6%, as I am) once state law makers catch up on the Supreme Court ruling. (and technically if you are in PA you are subject to use tax, so even though the overwhelming majority of people do not pay it, you are liable for it. ...
I really really wish they would outlaw 'cash back' and any sort of 'rewards' credit cards. What the consumer doesn't see, is that ultimately, it's the retail merchants who ultimately pay for it. It sounds great when 'big bank chase hands you cash' but, it's not so great when already struggling mom and pop retailers have to eat another 3% off their margins.
The Apple Card is made of titanium, not plastic.
And it's not called Apple "Credit" Card for a reason. I believe it's not just a credit card with a fancy design, but a card that can help consumers take back control, doing it better than all credit card companies combined.
You need to have a grander vision to see the truth.
Not sure I agree with you there - a couple, maybe (most notably Germany), but I travel extensively through Europe and rarely need or use cash and most places seem to assume payment will be by card.
So because Apple Credit Card isn't out to make extreme profit no bank want this? Sounds about right!
Lol I love the AMEX drones that have to find something to whine about with Apple Card.
Sorry. AMEX isn't the best thing on the block anymore.
While I agree with you here---I don't think any major bank in the US is clean when it comes to how they behaved prior and after the Housing Market burst.Goldman Sachs seeks to disrupt consumer finance by putting the customer first.
Like how Goldman put their Credit Default Swap customers first, when they stopped answering the phone when it came time for them to pay their customers' swaps, and even refusing to recognize the market price of those swaps that moved against them? Goldman only puts their customers first when it's profitable for them to do so. In other words, never.
why they hell would someone not take MasterCard if they take VISA? (boggled)Costco does accept Apple Pay (did you miss all of those Costco announcement posts a few months back?). They won’t accept the Apple Card though because it is a MasterCard.
This is just not true at all: I’ve been traveling in Central Europe for 9 days, spanning 6 cities and 4 countries (Austria, Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic). All vendors, from restaurants, bars, souvenir shops and train tickets, except one fancy cocktail bar take credit cards, and pretty much by default, Apple Pay. That’s not even counting london, where I hardly ever take our wallet anymore (everything is paid with iPhone).Most countries (especially Europe) are very averse to credit cards.
It is beyond hilarious how many people take offense to this. A bank’s core competency is to make money off of you. The fact that several of you think Citigroup is now going to loose a large customer base because they are passing up on Apple is appalling. Remember when AMEX told Costco to take a hike when they wanted a lower transaction rate and people thought AMEX was doomed? Well hate to break it to you but AMEX is doing just fine.
A hard pull doesn’t necessarily lower your credit score. If it does, it’s typically only a few points and temporary in any case.So, you're willing to get a hard pull on your credit and get points deducted just for ***** and giggles?