Citizen Eco Drive Bluetooth Watch

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  1. jasonbaum macrumors regular

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    So there's this new watch that I'm really jonsing for: the Citizen Eco Drive Proximity, a bluetooth-enabled watch that connects to iPhone 4 and later. The watch will provide all sorts of useful information. No microphone or speaker, or video screen...so if you're a Dick Tracy wannabe, this isn't the device for you.
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    The app that does the heavy lifting is creatively named: "Citizen Eco Drive Proximity" and so far there are only a handful of reviews (eight to be exact) none of which are stellar. Not surprising with the 1.0 release of something like this. As an early adapter I know there will be hiccups. I also believe if the foundation is strong, many of the issues will be resolved.

    Does anyone have any experience with the Proximity? Any thoughts?

    Cheers,

    JB
     
  2. njaremka macrumors 6502

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    interesting...

    i have a Citizen Eco-Drive watch already, and i love it. you never realize what a hassle it is to change a watch battery, until you never have to after 6+ years of owning a watch. adding the bluetooth notification features seems like a nice addition to the line-up.
     
  3. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    I wonder if it is just too early to find anyone who actually has the watch. :confused:
     
  4. JNGold macrumors 6502a

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    Wow, this is one sharp looking watch. Checking out some of the app reviews though seem to lean toward disconnect problems with the phone.
     
  5. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Saw those. As an early adopter optimist, I wanna believe those are software issues and not hardware-related, in other words, fixable.

    I love the old-school analog look coupled with the digital functionality. It gives the allusion I'm not a total geek. Of course, as soon as I start talking, that notion is quickly dispelled. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Outrigger macrumors 68000

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    I looked at a couple of reviews on youtube, but it seems the bluetooth functions are so limited at this point. Plus the disconnect is problematic. I don't want to have to remember connecting every 6 hrs. If I was looking for an Eco Drive to begin with, I would definitely consider this watch, but seeing as I have one already (which I absolutely love), the functions that it brings are not worth the price.

    My phone sits next to me, so whenever an alert comes in, it chimes/vibrates. I can't imagine having my watch vibrate constantly. I think the novelty will wears off quickly when your watch vibrates non stop.
     
  7. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Outrigger,

    It sounds like you're much more popular than I am. In my case, my watch wouldn't be vibrating constantly. I also imagine you can choose which alerts set off the vibration.

    Also, I'm on my feet a good deal of the day so my phone is in my pocket. I more often than not neither hear it ringing or feel it vibrating.

    I agree on the disconnect issue being worrisome, hence my hope it is a software issue and my belief that software issues can be fixed.

    I also agree the Eco Drive is a great watch.
     
  8. bandityo macrumors member

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    I personally have this watch and am wearing the Green one now. Pairs up to my iphone5 just fine. Its a good looking watch with eco drive...not any more expensive than some of the others ...so the bluetooth functions are just extra fun for me.

    I keep my phone on silent at work and home, so the vibrate for call function is nice to let me know when a call is coming in....plus its a sharper looking watch in person than in the pics.
     
  9. S.L. macrumors regular

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    Not bad, could get it for about $150 through my corporate discount, but not a fan of casual watches.
     
  10. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Awesome Bandityo! You're the reason I started this thread. Any thoughts on the disconnection issues?

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    S.L.! I want to go to there! I'm the exact opposite. After wearing formal watches for longer than I care to I'm extremely happy wearing casual watches.
     
  11. bandityo macrumors member

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    Its low power bluetooth...so as long as your withing eyesight of the phone it stays connected. If I leave my phone and walk out of the room it vibrates to let me know its disconnected...then press the button on the watch and its back connected again.

    I do not put my phone in my back pocked never so I dont know about doing that lol
     
  12. S.L. macrumors regular

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    True, I hear you. For a casual watch, this model looks nice. :eek:
     
  13. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Btw S.L., nice discount. A million years ago I wrote retail ads in-house. The best discount we ever got from The May Company was 40% off retail. :rolleyes:

    The best street price I've found with virtually no research is at Amazon for around $375.
     
  14. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah I saw that. BTW, I started a new thread on bluetooth-enabled watches here

    I'm not a fan of the look digital watches honestly, though Casio makes a good product.

    I am hoping that the Casio and Citizen release is indicative of trend. I like wearing watches.
     
  15. toomer macrumors newbie

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    Interesting concept, ideas...

    Just picked up this watch as a gift to myself for the holidays. I have 14 days to return it if I don't like it.

    I've had it paired up for about an hour so far. Quick thoughts...

    1) The vibration on incoming call is subtle, at best. And it's just two quick pulses, and then it's done. Not sure if this will be a significant help, or not. The visual indicator that you missed a call, might be helpful though.

    2) No SMS notification is a bit disappointing, although I realize the product is not advertised as doing this. SMS would be much more useful for me than email, however - given that my primary work and personal email accounts usually each get in excess of 100+ messages a day. I don't need my wrist vibrating 200+ times.

    3) Time sync works well, and as advertised. This will probably be rather handy if you travel a lot (as I do) and hate re-setting your watch all the time.

    4) Find iPhone - Haven't used this yet (since I have this through iCloud anyway) but seems of minimal value, given that the phone and watch would have to be within ~30 feet of each other anyway.

    4) Email notification - as mentioned, probably a bit useless for most people on their main email accounts - unless you don't get many emails. The Citizen iPhone app actually uses its own mail client, apparently (instead of hooking into the iPhone's native mail app) for checking email ... which I thought was a bit interesting. But, this led me to the two interesting ideas for this watch...

    4) Set up a separate email account on gmail or wherever, for special messages that need to alert your watch. Whether that's through rules forwarding from your main email account, or whatever - an email account dedicated to the watch itself is probably the best way to go.

    5) If you have an IFTTT account, you can setup IFTTT to perform all sorts of actions based on triggers on the Internet, and send an email as a result of those. Did it start snowing at your house? You can have it send an email. Stock reach your desired buy/sell price? You can have it send an email. Your favorite MacRumors blogger post a new story which is in their RSS feed? You can have it send an email. Item go up on CraigsList that you've been looking for? You can have it send an email.

    This is a really interesting possibility -- given everything that IFTTT can do. Additionally, I have Belkin WeMo switches and motion sensors that I've hooked into IFTTT - so I can have IFTTT pick up on motion from them, then send an email to my Citizen-specific email address, which will trigger the mail alert on my watch. This could be useful for making sure that the petsitter comes by once a day, while I'm traveling (yes, I could make IFTTT just log it somewhere else, send a SMS to my phone, whatever else ... but that's hardly the point).

    We'll see how it goes, whether I keep it past two weeks or not ... but feel free to ask any questions.
     
  16. toomer macrumors newbie

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    Well, unfortunately - it looks like the Citizen might be going back. After leaving it on my nightstand overnight, next to my iPhone ... in the morning the watch had disconnected. This is to be expected, as it disconnects after 6 hours.

    More surprising, though - when I picked up my phone and watch, and then did the standard re-connect process ... the time sync was ridiculously off. I mean, I don't know how you end up >40m off over the course of less than 24h. Given that this is the most absolute, basic function of a watch - if it can't do even that correctly, it's going back.

    See attached photo. Nice try Citizen, but this attempt seems to have only been half-baked ...
     

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  17. bandityo macrumors member

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    Mine works fine and keeps perfect time even when not sycned..I have the green one...
     
  18. jasonbaum thread starter macrumors regular

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    Returning It

    Too many cons:

    The user interface will make most users' heads explode. In addition the layout of the data is challenging to anyone with less than perfect vision.

    Yes the watches drops connectivity randomly. Maybe a software upgrade will eventually fix that.

    I'm posting a review separately from Tuaw that is much more articulate.

    Meh.
     

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