OS X Civilization V - Retina Display Fuzziness

Ason12

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I've just purchased a 15" Retina MacBook Pro and decided to install my trusty ole Civ V on it, but I've run into kind of an odd issue. When I have it set to HiDPI mode everything is relatively clear, except for all text and the interface. Those are really quite fuzzy. I'm not sure what I should do? I've scoured the forums and have been unable to find a clear answer. Any help would be appreciated!
 

Aspyr-Blair

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I've just purchased a 15" Retina MacBook Pro and decided to install my trusty ole Civ V on it, but I've run into kind of an odd issue. When I have it set to HiDPI mode everything is relatively clear, except for all text and the interface. Those are really quite fuzzy. I'm not sure what I should do? I've scoured the forums and have been unable to find a clear answer. Any help would be appreciated!
Simply turn off HiDPI. You can still select the full retina resolution as Civ V works in retina natively.
 

Ason12

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I've done that to no avail, the text and interface elements are still fuzzy.
 

ErikGrim

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Is there a way to scale the text natively in HiDPI mode at least? I know the icon assets are probably a lost cause, but if the text in HiDPI mode could be sharp, that would go a long way. Once you've played Civ V in full 5K you are not likely to ever switch back, but in Non-HiDPI mode the UI is unusable of course.

PS. Big up to the last update that brought full Mod and Steamworks support! It's just amazing!

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puelocesar

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Mar 11, 2013
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I never got this to work well. When I disable HiDPI fonts are just too small for my eyes on 2880x1800. Aspyr support didn't really helped on this, but there's not much they can do I think, it's up to the developers to properly support HiDPI..

Anyway, to be able to see something and without most of the fuzziness, I'm running it on 1680x1050.
 

puelocesar

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Mar 11, 2013
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I have a 15" Retina and Civ 5, No issues here. Here are my settings
Well, that's bad rendering for me. It's rendering the text with a smaller resolution and then upscaling the interface, instead of rendering it on the correct resolution.
 

puelocesar

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Mar 11, 2013
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It just seems odd that the text would be rendered as if upscaled instead of just native point size.
So I took a screenshot with 2880x1800 with HiDpi off, and now I understand what's happening. Let's say you have a game and you have a window with text in it with the size of 100x100. When you adapt your code to HiDPI, you can do two things: reimplement the window in 200x200 for retina devices, or use the same implementation and just scale it by 2x. Unfortunately it seems like they are using the latter.

I know because I already did something like that in the past in a MUCH smaller game, you have a deadline, your manager won't give you enough time to implement it the right way, so you do shortcuts..

Still, it's disappointing, as this game would benefit greatly from a proper retina optimization.
 
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