Claims of Apple Putting New Hires to Work on 'Fake' Projects Questioned, Found Unlikely

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Just over a year ago, a LinkedIn Q&A session with Inside Apple author Adam Lashinsky generated some attention for an exchange with a former Apple employee in the audience who reported that new Apple hires are sometimes placed on "fake" projects during a probationary period. The audience member's comment was sparked by Lashinsky's discussion of employees being hired into "dummy positions" where they do not know what they will be working on until they start at the company.

    Ars Technica has now followed up on those claims of new hires being placed on fake projects and found that the claim is unlikely to be true.
    Sources noted that virtually all work at Apple is heavily covered by nondisclosure agreements, meaning that there is little need to resort to putting employees on fake projects as tests of their loyalty.

    The report also describes how Apple works to track down suspected sources of leaks, occasionally putting an entire room on lockdown with security personnel working quickly to download data from computers and other devices. Such incidents are said to be rare, but they do leave lasting impressions on employees.

    Article Link: Claims of Apple Putting New Hires to Work on 'Fake' Projects Questioned, Found Unlikely
  2. iphone495 macrumors member

    Sep 13, 2012
    I didn't think so. That would be waste of Apple resources. And COOK wouldn't let that happen.
  3. Tankmaze macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2012
    they must be working on a fake of a fake project, so they don't realize they are fake. fakeception. its friday night here, so cheers :D
  4. Four oF NINE macrumors 68000

    Four oF NINE

    Sep 28, 2011
    Hell's Kitchen
    Not only that, projects are heavily compartmentalized.. different teams are seldom working on overarching themes
  5. Compile 'em all macrumors 601

    Compile 'em all

    Apr 6, 2005
  6. sbrhwkp3 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2005
    Lake George, NY
    If I were the employee, I'd be pissed that I did all that work to never see a product hit the market. This would be a terrible policy, and there's no way apple does it.
  7. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

    Dr McKay

    Aug 11, 2010
    Lol, imagine pouring your heart and soul into a project to make it truly amazing, staying up late, working early thinking that this project is your chance to shine and show your mark and then find out you were working on a dud.
  8. lighthouse_man macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2005
    So you're telling us that Apple is actually working on fully functional robot with human like AI?
  9. ctdonath macrumors 65816


    Mar 11, 2009
    Actually, :apple: rather notably runs multiple competing projects, in the end selecting the best of the bunch and dropping the rest. This could be construed as "fake projects".
    Might be more the norm than the exception. :apple: is looking for the very best, so it's worth a policy of running many high-cost projects and killing most of them.
  10. Mousse macrumors 68000


    Apr 7, 2008
    Flea Bottom, King's Landing
    Welcome to the Peoples Republic of Apple.:rolleyes: Here's yer tinfoil pyramid hat. I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories before, but this one makes all of those seem plausible.

    Even the most sensible (leak prevention) part makes no sense. Why the heck would they hire someone whom they suspect would leak information?
  11. JaySoul macrumors 68020


    Jan 30, 2008
    Siri was a fake project that got rubber-stamped by accident.
  12. AppleScruff1 macrumors G3


    Feb 10, 2011
    Along with Apple maps.
  13. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    But that's clearly not what the articles last year talking about this meant. They were bogus rumors based on misunderstandings (even if something like competing projects does take place).
  14. whooleytoo macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Lots of Apple projects in the past have been worked on for months (in extreme cases, years) and then canned; which might be partly what fed this rumour. Someone worked on a project that never lead to any product and then speculated if the project was ever genuine.
  15. notjustjay macrumors 603


    Sep 19, 2003
    Canada, eh?
    Well, knowing that misunderstandings and rumors often stem from some core element of truth, that's probably the closest explanation.

    Apple likely has multiple projects in the pipeline, many of which are experimental. Curved glass iWatch? Apple Television? Smaller iPhone? Larger iPhone? Touchscreen Macs? New Mac Pros? Apple gaming console? I bet all of those rumors are true in the sense that somebody, somewhere, was working on them. Which ones of those will ever become shipping products... that's another story.
  16. iphone3gss macrumors member

    Jun 13, 2009
    The NDAs could cover not discussing the fake projects...
  17. BornAgainApple macrumors 6502a


    Jun 9, 2009
    I'd clean the restrooms for a chance to work behind the walls of 1 Cupertino Loop :apple:
  18. Big-TDI-Guy macrumors 68030


    Jan 11, 2007
    Room on lockdown, I question if that is even legal? "Sorry hun, I can't leave work until security lets us out of the room." ? :confused:
  19. nwcs macrumors 65816


    Sep 21, 2009
    Why not legal? They can set up video cameras and record everything you do. And if you don't think businesses do that (and monitor all internet traffic) then you'd be mistaken. It's a condition of employment you don't see buried in the docs you sign when you become an employee.
  20. Radio macrumors 68000

    Mar 5, 2012
    Central California
  21. whooleytoo macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Pretty questionable, I'd have thought. Can security effectively detain people without their consent, particularly when there is (as yet) no clear evidence of a crime?

    I guess they could always threaten anyone who leaves with being fired for refusing to submit to a security check.
  22. kalsta macrumors 68000


    May 17, 2010
    Cleaning the 1 Cupertino Loo huh? At least you'll know there's nothing fake about those jobs.
  23. Renzatic Suspended


    Aug 3, 2011
    Gramps, what the hell am I paying you for?
    "Line up, people! We're harvesting your testicles and having them frozen for the Apple Inc. Human Posterity Project. The contracts you signed allows us to do this, so you might as well get it over with now relatively pain free, rather than having us sue the hell out of you for millions of dollars and still end up taking your testicles later".

    "...okay". :(
  24. bdkennedy1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 24, 2002
    Meanwhile, China leaks out whatever it wants to.
  25. SmileyBlast! macrumors 6502a


    Mar 1, 2011
    Maybe the engineers work on real jobs but PR people say they work on Fake Projects.

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