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I know that anti virus applications aren't necessary on a Mac, but do you think I should install ClamXav in order to scan files I send via mail to Windows users? Is ClamXav a good choice for that? How are their definitions?
 
I know that anti virus applications aren't necessary on a Mac, but do you think I should install ClamXav in order to scan files I send via mail to Windows users? Is ClamXav a good choice for that? How are their definitions?

I've actually had a few close calls recently with some Mac targeted malware. I've actually started using Avast! Free on my Mac permanently now and have been surprised at what its picked up, even from seemingly legit websites.

Personally, I no longer maintain the view that Macs don't need virus protection.
 
Unless you frequent naughty or dark web sites, or have friends that email you that frequent naughty or dark web sites, you really don't need it.
 
I know that anti virus applications aren't necessary on a Mac, but do you think I should install ClamXav in order to scan files I send via mail to Windows users? Is ClamXav a good choice for that? How are their definitions?
ClamXAV detects both OS X and Windows malware, doesn't consume significant system resources, and can be used for on-demand scans prior to sending files. Of course, it's always wise to recommend to Windows users that they have their own antivirus protection installed, to protect them from malware from sources other than your Mac.

As far as definitions go, none of the antivirus apps have a 100% detection rate, but ClamXAV has a good reputation.
Personally, I no longer maintain the view that Macs don't need virus protection.
If you consistently practice safe computing, you can successfully avoid all OS X malware that has ever existed in the wild. If you're not sure you'll be consistent in practicing safe computing, an antivirus app may or may not catch something that you allowed on your system, since no such app detects all malware.
 
As far as definitions go, none of the antivirus apps have a 100% detection rate, but ClamXAV has a good reputation.

Hmm, I just found some websites saying that it's detection rate is low compared to the others, so I'm a bit concerned. I mean something with a detection rate similar to Microsoft's Security Essiantials won't be that useful...
 
Hmm, I just found some websites saying that it's detection rate is low compared to the others, so I'm a bit concerned. I mean something with a detection rate similar to Microsoft's Security Essiantials won't be that useful...
There have been several surveys of detection rates among antivirus apps. The ranking changes from one survey to the next, with some apps performing better or worse than others, depending on when the survey was done and what criteria was used.
 
Hmm, what do you think about Bitdefender Virus Scanner?
Since I don't use such apps, I can't offer any insight into the differences between them, except to say that you should avoid Sophos and iAntiVirus. Some have better detection rates than others. Some have a more significant impact on performance than others. Some only detect OS X malware, while others also detect Windows malware. You may get some opinions here in the forum, but doing your own research and deciding what features are most important to you is the best approach.

As an OS X user, you should ask yourself how often you'll be receiving files and transferring those to Windows users. If you're talking about creating files such as documents, spreadsheets, photos, videos etc. using Macs or iOS devices, such files don't need to be scanned before sending to Windows users, since you can't create a Windows malware infested file in an OS X or iOS environment.

That leaves the only potential risk being if you receive a file from a Windows user or download a file, then pass it on to Windows users. Even then, if you're downloading from reliable sources or only receiving files from Windows computers running antivirus, the possibility of you passing along malware is virtually non-existent.

Read the What about sending files to Windows users? section of the Mac Virus/Malware FAQ for more information.
 
I've actually started using Avast! Free on my Mac permanently now and have been surprised at what its picked up, even from seemingly legit websites.

How many resources does it use on your Mac? Would you recommend it over ClamXav? What are the differences?

I'm a bit concerned about Avast since the most helpful review of it on MacUpdate says that it collects all sorts of information about you, including all the websites you visit. Is that true?

Personally, I no longer maintain the view that Macs don't need virus protection.

Have you ever been infected? If so, how? Personally I don't use Java, Flash and Adobe Reader, so I'm a bit puzzled since most malware infect your computer by using them.

ClamXAV detects both OS X and Windows malware, doesn't consume significant system resources, and can be used for on-demand scans prior to sending files.

I thought ClamXav doesn't have any real time protection? So what system resources is it using when you're not performing a scan?
 
I thought ClamXav doesn't have any real time protection? So what system resources is it using when you're not performing a scan?
ClamXAV does have a Sentry feature that does continuous real-time scanning. It does consume system resources to function. However, it's not necessary or recommended, so you can elect not to use the Sentry feature and simply use ClamXAV to periodically scan files on an as-needed basis. In that scenario, ClamXAV is not running until you launch it to scan, so it consumes no resources at all.
 
ClamXav from the MAS does not have the real time Sentry monitoring feature. If you want that, you will need to download ClamXav from the developers website.

As GGJstudios noted, the program uses very little resources. So, the impact on a system during a scan should be minimal.
 
How many resources does it use on your Mac? Would you recommend it over ClamXav? What are the differences?

I'm a bit concerned about Avast since the most helpful review of it on MacUpdate says that it collects all sorts of information about you, including all the websites you visit. Is that true?



Have you ever been infected? If so, how? Personally I don't use Java, Flash and Adobe Reader, so I'm a bit puzzled since most malware infect your computer by using them.



I thought ClamXav doesn't have any real time protection? So what system resources is it using when you're not performing a scan?

I didn't, but my GF did on her new Macbook Air by (to be fair unknowingly) downloaded a movie which was actually a .dmg and installed it, which took over her Safari and turned out to be tough to remove manually. I resorted to Avast! which removed it easily and I left the app on there in case she did a similar thing again.

I decided to keep it running on mine as well just to see what it detects and surprisingly has been picking up the odd virus here and there, one on a seemingly legitimate hardware manufacturers website based in Hong Kong. So I keep it running now.

As for resources, actually its not been that bad, but then again I do have the latest gen MacBook Pro with i7 2.8Ghz and 16Gb RAM so maybe I'm beefy enough not to notice much difference.
 
I'm mostly concerned about PDFs.

Are you creating the pdf's from sources you are concerned about, or attaching executable files into the document that would give you cause for due concern if you were a Windows recipient? If the answer to these questions is no, I wouldn't go extending yourself to try and protect Windows users. However, you could include a sentence in your email suggesting that people always scan their email before opening regardless of source.
 
I'm mostly concerned about PDFs.
If you're creating PDFs on your Mac, they cannot contain malware of any kind that could affect either OS X or Windows. Scanning such files is completely unnecessary.
 
Are you creating the pdf's from sources you are concerned about, or attaching executable files into the document that would give you cause for due concern if you were a Windows recipient?

Well, many of these PDF files are from the internet after googling them...

However, you could include a sentence in your email suggesting that people always scan their email before opening regardless of source.

Most people have no idea how to perform a custom scan with their antivirus software (if they even have one that isn't expired) and probably won't even find the option in the context menu even after you tell them. :rolleyes:
 
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