Believes is using the service in any manner prohibited OR whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network. The belief only applies to whether the manner of usage is prohibited.
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Clauses in AT&T Contracts Have Always Provided for Limits on 'Unlimited' Data Plans
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Believes is using the service in any manner prohibited OR whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network. The belief only applies to whether the manner of usage is prohibited.
The terms of service can be challenged....
Honestly, the TOS are basically the same TOS you see with Verizon, etc. All TOS can be challenged by a competent lawyer.....
ATT knows this and so does every other company... But they don't care. They would rather pay their lawyers a boatload of moolah than help or be ethical with their customers...
A big middle finger to ATT for being scurrilous and deceitful!!!!!!
Honestly, the TOS are basically the same TOS you see with Verizon, etc. All TOS can be challenged by a competent lawyer.....
ATT knows this and so does every other company... But they don't care. They would rather pay their lawyers a boatload of moolah than help or be ethical with their customers...
A big middle finger to ATT for being scurrilous and deceitful!!!!!!
How is it legal to have in a contract "if you belive we are breaking you copntract you do not get to file a class action lawsuit"
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Never owned a business have you.. Certainly have no experience selling resources based on average utilization. Your ignorance is concrete.
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Never owned a business have you.. Certainly have no experience selling resources based on average utilization. Your ignorance is concrete.
I'm fairly certain they are paying for the data they use. When they signed their contract, the AT&T rep lead them to believe that if they paid $29.99 per month, they could use "unlimited" data. And, in this day of age, courts are becoming less and less tolerant of corporations misleading the consumer, contract or not.
This is done purposefully because they've been burned on Class suits before.If a lawyer can find that clause unconscionable in court they can get a class action suit filed
Guess who pays for it... the taxpayers.
I have no desire for a government owned/controlled communications system.
They will still use private companies to build and maintain it and we (taxpayers) will have to foot the bill for all the cost over runs and kickbacks.
No thanks.
I believe the $17+ billion they spent last year on upgrading their network shows they're doing just that.
Set realistic expectations in life and you will not be so disappointed. This s*** doesn't happen over night folks.
They were hoping the T-Mobile deal would go through as it would have been a faster path to increasing capacity.
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I read:
AT&T can throttle "anyone it believes is using the Service in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network."
AT&T can throttle anyone it believes is using the service in any manner prohibited.
Or...
AT&T can throttle anyone it believes whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network or service levels or hinders access to its wireless network."
" ...or whose usage adversely impacts its wireless network "
So what they are saying is that you can't use the service they offer in an "unlimited" fashion because the very nature of that "unlimited" service "adversely impacts its wireless network".
Way to go AT&T. Advertise and then sell something that you can't deliver.
So what they are saying is that you can't use the service they offer in an "unlimited" fashion because the very nature of that "unlimited" service "adversely impacts its wireless network".
Way to go AT&T. Advertise and then sell something that you can't deliver.
over 100 million happy customers, minus the 30-40 whiners on this board who live to bash the company that partnered with Apple to change the smartphone business.
While this is true, this isn't the main bottleneck on cell networks. The backbones are usually in good shape, but it isn't like you can turn on a tower and saturate whatever backbone it is hooked up to. The spectrum and towers have finite limits on how much data can pass through it. More towers can help, but there are limits to that, and zoning fun with cities has made new tower placement somewhat slow in urban areas.
LTE is a huge help here since it opens up the bottleneck quite a bit. Note that Verizon is really pushing LTE and even saying all new devices they carry need to be LTE. I'd wager that the real reason is that LTE is giving them a way to relieve the load on their 3G network which is at or near capacity in urban areas.
Listen... I personally don't come close to the top 5% in my region.
And I don't care if someone else does.
My biggest complaint is that they continue to call these plans "Unlimited". This is an outright lie to the consumer, and nothing in the fine print of any contract can change the fact that they've already given the consumer the impression that limitations will not be placed.
Suck it up. Change the name. Apologize for misleading. Acting as though the average consumer should have a law degree to make a simple purchase and should expect the word "Unlimited" means anything but unlimited is ludicrous.
And I don't care if someone else does.
My biggest complaint is that they continue to call these plans "Unlimited". This is an outright lie to the consumer, and nothing in the fine print of any contract can change the fact that they've already given the consumer the impression that limitations will not be placed.
Suck it up. Change the name. Apologize for misleading. Acting as though the average consumer should have a law degree to make a simple purchase and should expect the word "Unlimited" means anything but unlimited is ludicrous.
or.... way to go customers, agree to Terms of Service that you now choose to not agree to. Take your pick.
Read your Verizon Fios contracts, your Sprint contracts, etc. They all have the same types of clauses.
Uhm, you do realize that with Sprint, everyone is throttled. Test after test shows that Sprint iPhone users have only 1/6 the speed of AT&T iPhone users.
Check the Sprint forum boards too....hundreds of thousands of users complaining about slow access.
I guess Sprint was smart....make everyone slow.
At the very least they should be banned from selling contracts billed as "unlimited" that patently are not, regardless of any fine print in the 100-page contract that they know damn well no customer is ever going to have time to go over. I don't care for myself because I never even get close to my 2 GB per moth limit, but that's just flat out false advertising. If they were just up front about these things and stop with the "unlimited" nonsense, people wouldn't care.
Good idea. I only use ~500mb a month so why do I have to pay for 2gb? If I am under I should get a refund.
Why should it only work in favor of the vendor?A line has to be drawn somewhere. Every TOS essentially says "you have no rights as the consumer/buyer/subscriber, we can do anything we want to you at any time for any reason..."
It's BS. Every EULA, TOS, etc... they all include clauses like this. You essentially never have a guarantee that what is advertised and what you purchase isn't going to drastically change at the provider's whim. And unfortunately, the only way to send a message is to take your dollars elsewhere... to another company that will do the exact same thing to you.
It's BS. Every EULA, TOS, etc... they all include clauses like this. You essentially never have a guarantee that what is advertised and what you purchase isn't going to drastically change at the provider's whim. And unfortunately, the only way to send a message is to take your dollars elsewhere... to another company that will do the exact same thing to you.
Get rid of all Unlimited Plans. They are unfair. Those that use less always pay for those that use more. Someone has to pay.
Would you agree to an unlimited gas (oil), electricity, or food plan? Of course not....unless you are a top tier user. It would not be fair for a Toyota Corolla owner who drives 20 miles each week to pay the same price for unlimited gas as a Cadillac Escalade owner who drives 100 miles each day.
Unlimited plans also cause more waste. Just go to any dinner buffet restaurant and see for yourself. The same would be true for gas, electricity, food, etc.
Would you agree to an unlimited gas (oil), electricity, or food plan? Of course not....unless you are a top tier user. It would not be fair for a Toyota Corolla owner who drives 20 miles each week to pay the same price for unlimited gas as a Cadillac Escalade owner who drives 100 miles each day.
Unlimited plans also cause more waste. Just go to any dinner buffet restaurant and see for yourself. The same would be true for gas, electricity, food, etc.
Gotta read the T&Cs...not like you have a choice anyway. Almost every contract has something like "we reserve the right to do anything outside of this contract if it fits us." But the reality is that no contract is written in stone, especially if it can be considered unreasonable and egregious. I use my iPhone all day long and have never gotten even remotely close to 1GB/month. So I'm not sure what the heck y'all doing. I don't stream video much. Got too many other things going on to do that on the go.
If it's $10 for ever 1 GB of data, why is the 300 MB plan $20 or $10 per 150 MB.
It should be $20 for 2 GB of data. The 300 MB plan is way over priced.
It should be $20 for 2 GB of data. The 300 MB plan is way over priced.