Clear Geographic Split Shows iPhone 6 Plus Especially Popular With Asian Customers

[Bobby Corwen]

This explains my preference for the larger model. I'm American, but my ancestry is mostly European. So I would guess that Americans of European descent will be governed by the same factors that affect Europeans of European descent. Or of Asian descent, such as the native Americans. We're the same after all!🙄

We are all the totality of our socially transmitted behavior patterns, morals, ideas, mores, values, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.

Testosterone is only a drop in the ocean of explaining the end result matriculation of a culture.

But it is also the cornerstone element that dictates how the civilization will play out on a macro scale, and the choices humans make when all the elements are executed and have interplayed with each other.

So I know you were trying to be clever but the hypothesis I illustrated does not conflict with the example you gave because it wasn't the scope of my statement.

Also my brief explanation is only a small sample of many other companies concepts that would take many essays to flesh out.

If human species are 99.9% similar, and there are such wide varieties of ethnic groups with pattern tendencies, what other triggers in evolution would be responsible for this difference besides chemical balances of testosterone and the interrelated factors related to it?

Testosterone is also the basic difference between men and women, and then the elements are reinforced in the culture over time.

It affects the choices we make on a primal level.

 

[commodorepet]

I'm no sociologist, but I know that in Japan at least a large portion of the population commutes long distances through public transportation. Larger devices would certainly be helpful for passing the time in this situation.

Correct about long commutes, but not large phones I see mostly college age kids with older iphones (4 and 4S) in use on the Trains, a lot of Sony smartphones, none as large as the 6S and a significant number of regular flip phones (which still do packet texting). Privacy is a big deal, so a lot of people put the plastic covers on the screen that occlude indirect viewing.
I even saw a fair number of iPhones with cracked screens still being used.

(Daily commiute in Tokyo)

 

[ChrisTX]

Some people accepted a 6 because the 6+ wasn't available. I want to see what the numbers are in Jan-Mar quarter.

Doubtful. No one's going to settle for the iPhone 6 if they really want a 6 Plus. I honestly think most Apple users just don't want a massive handset. I came from a Galaxy Note 3 so the transition was an easy one. However at times, I often wonder if owning a smaller handset wouldn't be more practical. 😎

 

[haruhiko]

Asia is a very broad term, from areas with Chinese cultural influence like mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, Japan etc. to Southeast Asian countries, Indian subcontinent, Russia, Central Asian countries, to Turkey, Syria, etc. which includes nearly half (or more) of the world's population, with vast difference in culture, wealth and spending habit. When we talk about Asia or Asian people we're basically talking about nothing specific.

 

[jsbigs]

That's because none of the "ordered in the U.S." 6 Plus iPhones are getting delivered.

 

[ChrisTX]

That's because none of the "ordered in the U.S." 6 Plus iPhones are getting delivered.

Doubtful considering I was able to walk in to one of the busiest Apple stores in Houston and pick one up 2 weeks ago.

 

[jsbigs]

Doubtful considering I was able to walk in to one of the busiest Apple stores in Houston and pick one up 2 weeks ago.

To be more specific, the 6 Plus 128GB in Space Gray. There are 3 Apple stores in the entire U.S. that have this phone. Everywhere else it is backordered. My latest ship date update is two months after my order date. It is the same for countless others.

 

[lk400]

Lol Australians and Canadians think everything is BS and were the least likely to fall for the hype of the 6 Plus.

My Australian friend had been wanting a 6+ since day 1, but for whatever reason was reluctant to order with the 3-4 week wait on every model. He has held off buying one.

I am in Japan and have been able to buy at least one model fo 6+ on every day since launch (this is just one store that has availability signs out the front - since day 1 there has been at least one 6+ model available). I picked up a 6+ 128gb after about a week, with no lines - walked in walked out.

While not the only factor, this has to have something to do with it.

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True.. but it's not a huge difference.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/world-of-commuters/?_r=0

It is true - I am not sure how important, but true.

Many of us spend many hours each day on trains. Many people in major cities dont own cars. The trains are very safe, and have constant cell connectivity in subways etc. Nowadays I would say 90% of people on subways in major cities are staring at a screen.

Also in Japan all people carry bags all the time. Men and women. So size is not an important factor - people dont usually carry 6+ sized phones in pockets.

 

[MacSince1990]

Please go back and learn 5th grade math. Having an 80:20 split simplifies down to 4:1, not 5:1.

Makes you wonder who's writing these things.

 

[MacSince1990]

They are more in tune with their ocular receptors and derive more serene pleasure from the eye candy due to a higher level of mental patience on average due to the lower test levels in the ethnic group on average.

its kind of like how eastern philosophy is based around meditation and focus while other cultures have more "aggression" in their culture.

Well focus is the opposite of aggression. Its why there aren't many Asians in the NBA but also most NBA players can barely put sentences together or care to sculpt Banzai trees as a form of relaxation.

There have been new studies that show Europeans and Asians have 2-5% elements of Neanderthal DNA which points to differences in how human brains work and the amount of lipids in various ethnic groups.

Pretty much, they are more likely to focus on, and enjoy the screen because of the way the brains and eyes work. They are almost having sex with it while other people don't really have patience for that and focus on other more physical based perceptions of reality. Smart people see their body as a vessel that carries their brain. Athletic people are more in a mind-body connection and see the body as themselves and it happens to carry their brain.

I know its not scientific but sometimes science doesn't have a way to test these things. I just have been friends with a lot of people on a lot of continents from early ages and I have notice patterns. I moved around a lot as a child and met many people in a way most people never had a chance to experience which is way more than any sociological tests can claim because there are no methods to test such elusive concepts.

In my whole life, my theories have never been met with examples that don't fit into my exploration of the influence of testosterone and the patterns in culture that originate from the dictation of the machinations of testosterone.

All machinations have to come from a simple place because evolution is relatively simple logistical mechanism that dictates patterns in our cultures.

.....This post was all over the place, yikes. Talk about meandering. Some of the basic claims here are true (Neandertal DNA, etc., although this has been known for at least 7 years now), but the conclusions you draw from them are a bit nutty. And you occasionally throw in things at random ("brain lipids") without really tying it in at all. This reads like a stream of consciousness rather than an actual cogent thought process. The odds that you will find any support from any scientific sources of any of your basic claims (especially the first paragraph) are about zero.

You also make sweeping generalizations that fail to take into account any number of equally important factors like socioeconomic status, culture, environment, nutrition, and more.

As someone who is both plenty smart (IQ > 140) and has, yes, natural testosterone levels that exceed 1500ng/dL, I can tell you I neither see my body as a vessel for my brain, nor my brain as a mere part of my body. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. The idea that aggression and intelligence are mutually exclusive is a bit laughable.

Your gross oversimplification of this entire subject is slightly offensive-- in addition to being asinine.

And for the record, there's no evidence that Neanderthals were any more violent than humans. If anything, the opposite is true. And they were in no way stupid. Actually, their larger brains helped with things like spatial ability and direction.

Oh, and guess who had very large visual cortices? You guessed it: Neanderthals.

 

[Mac'em X]

You just can't make this stuff up

As a guy living half my life in "the West" and half in "the Far East", I've become a bit of a connoisseur of the wacky responses any discussion like this generates.

I don't mean the thoughtful speculations from many commenters on possible reasons for differing preferences in phone size. Like regional differences in means and lengths of commutes (an uncertain factor), in size requirements for best displaying Chinese characters (I'd discount that; unless I'm mistaken, the bigger iPhone displays more characters, not bigger characters), in preferences for handbags vs pockets for carrying phones (perhaps a factor?), in ownership of multiple devices vs use of a single phone for everything (also perhaps a factor?), in regional availability of sizes, in regional marketing campaigns, and so on.

No, I mean the sort of bibble-babble that always comes up:

They are more in tune with their ocular receptors and derive more serene pleasure from the eye candy due to a higher level of mental patience on average due to the lower test levels in the ethnic group on average... eastern philosophy is based around meditation and focus while other cultures have more "aggression" in their culture... Europeans and Asians have 2-5% elements of Neanderthal DNA... amount of lipids in various ethnic groups... evolution is relatively simple logistical mechanism that dictates patterns in our cultures...

THIS! Ocular receptors and ethnic patience levels! "Eastern" philosophy! Neanderthal DNA! And ever-lovin' lipids for the win!

This is pure gold. Don't stop there, my friend. How about adding something about small screen sizes... uh, disrupting the feng shui and angering dragon spirits, perhaps? And maybe tie small screen size to "losing face" and "shaming ancestors"? (None of this has to make sense or reflect actual "Asians" in any way. Just ask Hollywood!)

(Oh, high-five for the nod to "Banzai trees". Those are the ones tossing their branches up as they cheer, right? 😀 )

Thanks for the chuckles. I'll be sharing this one for sure. 🙂

In my whole life, my theories have never been met with examples that don't fit into my exploration of the influence of testosterone and the patterns in culture that originate from the dictation of the machinations of testosterone.

Science has a term for your experience. It's called "confirmation bias".

Anyway, setting that aside:

For all the talk of a difference in preferences and why "Asians" might prefer the larger size, there's an important item to note. While the big iPhone may be relatively more popular in Asia, buyers in Asia still prefer the small iPhone. By a great big margin – about 2 to 1.

Also worth noting: Before the original iPhone pioneered the market for full-size (a whopping 3.5"!) screens, Asia was largely designing, manufacturing, selling, buying, and using phones with screens of about 2".

In short: People in Asia used to be fine with tiny screens. Now, in the phablet age, the largest screens have found a healthy following in Asia, but most buyers there opt for more modest screen sizes. None of which differs terribly from the rest of the world.

I'll let the theorists work out how that all that comports with testosterone levels.

 

[haruhiko]

As a guy living half my life in "the West" and half in "the Far East", I've become a bit of a connoisseur of the wacky responses any discussion like this generates.

I don't mean the thoughtful speculations from many commenters on possible reasons for differing preferences in phone size. Like regional differences in means and lengths of commutes (an uncertain factor), in size requirements for best displaying Chinese characters (I'd discount that; unless I'm mistaken, the bigger iPhone displays more characters, not bigger characters), in preferences for handbags vs pockets for carrying phones (perhaps a factor?), in ownership of multiple devices vs use of a single phone for everything (also perhaps a factor?), in regional availability of sizes, in regional marketing campaigns, and so on.

No, I mean the sort of bibble-babble that always comes up:



THIS! Ocular receptors and ethnic patience levels! "Eastern" philosophy! Neanderthal DNA! And ever-lovin' lipids for the win!

This is pure gold. Don't stop there, my friend. How about adding something about small screen sizes... uh, disrupting the feng shui and angering dragon spirits, perhaps? And maybe tie small screen size to "losing face" and "shaming ancestors"? (None of this has to make sense or reflect actual "Asians" in any way. Just ask Hollywood!)

(Oh, high-five for the nod to "Banzai trees". Those are the ones tossing their branches up as they cheer, right? 😀 )

Thanks for the chuckles. I'll be sharing this one for sure. 🙂



Science has a term for your experience. It's called "confirmation bias".

Anyway, setting that aside:

For all the talk of a difference in preferences and why "Asians" might prefer the larger size, there's an important item to note. While the big iPhone may be relatively more popular in Asia, buyers in Asia still prefer the small iPhone. By a great big margin – about 2 to 1.

Also worth noting: Before the original iPhone pioneered the market for full-size (a whopping 3.5"!) screens, Asia was largely designing, manufacturing, selling, buying, and using phones with screens of about 2".

In short: People in Asia used to be fine with tiny screens. Now, in the phablet age, the largest screens have found a healthy following in Asia, but most buyers there opt for more modest screen sizes. None of which differs terribly from the rest of the world.

I'll let the theorists work out how that all that comports with testosterone levels.

Haha.. this post is just great. In short, as I've mentioned in my previous post, any time you see the word "Asians" screams overgeneralization.

 

[TheJae]

Any sociologists out there who want to explain why the Asian demographic prefers the larger device?

It's inherently down to ego. We, asians, had everything small. God gave us tiny bodies.

So we make up for these 'inconveniences' by buying everything big. Thank god we have a huge economy.

Our apartments are still tiny tho 🙁

 

[a0me]

Not a sociologist by any means, but things I've heard that resonate:

• Better wireless than wired infrastructure

• Less PC use at home/only device

If you couple these things together, if you're doing 100% of your browsing/email/internet/gaming on a mobile device, wouldn't you want a larger device?

Spot on about your second point.
Regarding the wireless/wired infrastructure, it's not the case in Japan (wired is magnitude faster and more reliable than wireless) but maybe true in Vietnam and Philippines.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

.....This post was all over the place, yikes. Talk about meandering. Some of the basic claims here are true (Neandertal DNA, etc., although this has been known for at least 7 years now), but the conclusions you draw from them are a bit nutty. And you occasionally throw in things at random ("brain lipids") without really tying it in at all. This reads like a stream of consciousness rather than an actual cogent thought process. The odds that you will find any support from any scientific sources of any of your basic claims (especially the first paragraph) are about zero.

You also make sweeping generalizations that fail to take into account any number of equally important factors like socioeconomic status, culture, environment, nutrition, and more.

As someone who is both plenty smart (IQ > 140) and has, yes, natural testosterone levels that exceed 1500ng/dL, I can tell you I neither see my body as a vessel for my brain, nor my brain as a mere part of my body. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. The idea that aggression and intelligence are mutually exclusive is a bit laughable.

Your gross oversimplification of this entire subject is slightly offensive-- in addition to being asinine.

And for the record, there's no evidence that Neanderthals were any more violent than humans. If anything, the opposite is true. And they were in no way stupid. Actually, their larger brains helped with things like spatial ability and direction.

Oh, and guess who had very large visual cortices? You guessed it: Neanderthals.

If its so crazy, why does it make so much sense tho...

 

[APlotdevice]

.....This post was all over the place, yikes. Talk about meandering. Some of the basic claims here are true (Neandertal DNA, etc., although this has been known for at least 7 years now), but the conclusions you draw from them are a bit nutty. And you occasionally throw in things at random ("brain lipids") without really tying it in at all. This reads like a stream of consciousness rather than an actual cogent thought process. The odds that you will find any support from any scientific sources of any of your basic claims (especially the first paragraph) are about zero.

You also make sweeping generalizations that fail to take into account any number of equally important factors like socioeconomic status, culture, environment, nutrition, and more.

As someone who is both plenty smart (IQ > 140) and has, yes, natural testosterone levels that exceed 1500ng/dL, I can tell you I neither see my body as a vessel for my brain, nor my brain as a mere part of my body. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than that. The idea that aggression and intelligence are mutually exclusive is a bit laughable.

Your gross oversimplification of this entire subject is slightly offensive-- in addition to being asinine.

And for the record, there's no evidence that Neanderthals were any more violent than humans. If anything, the opposite is true. And they were in no way stupid. Actually, their larger brains helped with things like spatial ability and direction.

Oh, and guess who had very large visual cortices? You guessed it: Neanderthals.

And then there's the contradiction in his very post: "Europeans AND Asians". How can this make us different when virtually everyone in Europe and America has those genes too?

 

[Bobby Corwen]

And then there's the contradiction in his very post: "Europeans AND Asians". How can this make us different when virtually everyone in Europe and America has those genes too?

Europeans within the ethnic group have a greater genetic variance.

Asians: Low test on average
Euro: Everywhere from low-medium to high-medium depending on area and relative to both is closer to Asians.
Africa: High test on average

Also USA is only made up about half of European decent, and as stated by someone else there are other elements such as socioeconomic and other cultural factors.

 

[dovietnam]

iphone6+ is killing ipad and I really do not like iphone6+

 

[Neo Utopia]

Man bags

Phablets can replace tablets most of the time, that's why in many asian markets tablets just arn't as common as phablets. Maybe people prefer phablets over tablets for portability? It makes sense for people in these markets, particularly females, to purchase the 6 plus over the 6 because they usually keep their phones in their bag anyway, not shoved into their pocket like how most guys do.

 

[Tech198]

its kind of interesting to see even in some countries Nokia phones are popular above iPhones... I wouldn't believe it myself.

What do these people have that we don't ??

They know some secret we must uncover...

 

[Pyrhonen]

Can de Iphone 6 plus substitute an Ipad? 😎 I don't know if to buy the 6 plus or the Air 2. 😱

 

[wilsonlaidlaw]

iPhone 6 plus penetration in Taiwan very high

I have just come back from three weeks in Taiwan. I was amazed at the take up of the iPhone 6 and particularly the 6 Plus, often in gold. I felt a real luddite with my 5S 🙂

Their cellphone infrastructure makes the UK's seem primitive. I got a 3/4G SIM for a month for around £20 with unlimited data. I was getting 3G everywhere, even at remote places up in the central mountain range and both train and metro tunnels. In cities of any size, lightning fast 4G. With wifi in hotels often quite slow and buggy on my iPad Air2 (firewalls making signing on to various forums etc, often impossible), the iPhone hotspot was brilliant, easy to set up, fast on 3G or very fast on 4G.

 

[Poisonivy326]

We are all the totality of our socially transmitted behavior patterns, morals, ideas, mores, values, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.

Testosterone is only a drop in the ocean of explaining the end result matriculation of a culture.

But it is also the cornerstone element that dictates how the civilization will play out on a macro scale, and the choices humans make when all the elements are executed and have interplayed with each other.

So I know you were trying to be clever but the hypothesis I illustrated does not conflict with the example you gave because it wasn't the scope of my statement.

Also my brief explanation is only a small sample of many other companies concepts that would take many essays to flesh out.

If human species are 99.9% similar, and there are such wide varieties of ethnic groups with pattern tendencies, what other triggers in evolution would be responsible for this difference besides chemical balances of testosterone and the interrelated factors related to it?

Testosterone is also the basic difference between men and women, and then the elements are reinforced in the culture over time.

It affects the choices we make on a primal level.

Whatever, I probably would like you better at a Phish concert. As for now, just go back to watching Wizard of Oz with the Pink Floyd album.

 

[cdmoore74]

Yeah, what would be the difference had the iPhone 6 Plus been readily available to all the masses? I think it would be real close to a 50/50 split.

Makes no sense for a person to buy a regular 6 if they really wanted the 6 plus. If you are set on wanting anything in life you’re going to wait. Otherwise it’s a foolish mistake. Why go through buyers when you can wait a few weeks to get the desired model?

 

[MacSince1990]

If its so crazy, why does it make so much sense tho...

It doesn't? I forgot to mention it was also fairly racist.

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Europeans within the ethnic group have a greater genetic variance.

Asians: Low test on average
Euro: Everywhere from low-medium to high-medium depending on area and relative to both is closer to Asians.
Africa: High test on average

Also USA is only made up about half of European decent, and as stated by someone else there are other elements such as socioeconomic and other cultural factors.

This is made up.

http://ethnicmuse.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/east-asian-testosterone-i/

Unless you cite me a credible source, I'm not buying it.