Closing programs

Trebuin

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Ok, another question to help make life better:

Is there a way to have the program close out after the last window is closed without having to manually quit it?
 

iShater

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This forum is "Windows on the Mac", so my question is, are we talking windows apps? cause they do that already. :confused:

Edit: OK, the thread got moved!

In OSX there is no way that I know of to do that.
 

spinnerlys

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CMD+Q

Only applications with one window (System Preferences, iPhoto, iMovie) quit after the window is closed.
Btw, you can run many applications at once, currently I have fourteen programs open, it can get up to 25. Mac OS X takes care of RAM allocation quite good.


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TuffLuffJimmy

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Ok, another question to help make life better:

Is there a way to have the program close out after the last window is closed without having to manually quit it?
Why would you want an application to automatically close? I would want some control over it...

...Calculator, Dictionary, iCal(?), System Profiler(?)

others???
iPhoto. System profiler and iCal do not close when you close their window.
 

belvdr

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Why would you want an application to automatically close? I would want some control over it...



iPhoto. System profiler and iCal do not close when you close their window.
Why would you want the app still running when closing the windows? I can understand why some daemons would do this, but not an end user application.

It seems Apple is inconsistent with their own GUI and apps.
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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Why would you want the app still running when closing the windows? I can understand why some daemons would do this, but not an end user application.

It seems Apple is inconsistent with their own GUI and apps.
Because if I close a window I want to close the window. It makes no sense to quit an application when I close a window. If I want to quit an application, I'll quit the application. Also, new windows will open faster if the application is still running. One thing I hate in Windows is when I close iTunes it quits iTunes. I don't like leaving my iTunes window open, but I like to listen to music!
 

iShater

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I recall that this dead horse was beaten beyond recognition in previous threads.

The OP has a questions, please focus on helping him/her know if there is a way to do it via third party apps or not instead of rehashing the same pro-con arguments we always seem to end up with.

Please? :)
 

belvdr

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Because if I close a window I want to close the window. It makes no sense to quit an application when I close a window. If I want to quit an application, I'll quit the application. Also, new windows will open faster if the application is still running. One thing I hate in Windows is when I close iTunes it quits iTunes. I don't like leaving my iTunes window open, but I like to listen to music!
I figured if you closed the last window you'd be done with the app. That makes sense to me. I never close all windows just to return and open a new one. Apple is clearly divided, however, on which direction to take.

For iTunes on Windows, you can minimize to the system tray easily enough so it is out of sight.

As for the OP, I have no idea how to change this behavior.
 

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I figured if you closed the last window you'd be done with the app. That makes sense to me. I never close all windows just to return and open a new one. Apple is clearly divided, however, on which direction to take.

For iTunes on Windows, you can minimize to the system tray easily enough so it is out of sight.
Take Photoshop for example, if I have closed every photo/image, it is still running, like I want to, if I need to return to it later.

It's a quick convenience, that Mac OS X leaves applications running, and I read somewhere, what the reason was behind the one-window-closing->quit-applcation policy. I can only recite by memory, but it has something to do with applications having only a single window (System Preferences) or more (iCal, System Profiler, ...).


Maybe the following can help:

Introduction to Apple Human Interface Guidelines
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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I figured if you closed the last window you'd be done with the app. That makes sense to me. I never close all windows just to return and open a new one. Apple is clearly divided, however, on which direction to take.
How is Apple divided? It's simple. Single window applications quit when an application closes the only window; multi-window applications remain running.

For iTunes on Windows, you can minimize to the system tray easily enough so it is out of sight.
Don't patronize me. I'm more than Windows savvy.

As for the OP, I have no idea how to change this behavior.
I've heard of 3rd party tools that do this, but I have no idea how reliable they are.
 

bobr1952

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Because if I close a window I want to close the window. It makes no sense to quit an application when I close a window. If I want to quit an application, I'll quit the application. Also, new windows will open faster if the application is still running. One thing I hate in Windows is when I close iTunes it quits iTunes. I don't like leaving my iTunes window open, but I like to listen to music!
The browser is a good example of that. I never leave the browser window open but I leave the app open so I can use it when I need it. That is just one example--I use pretty much all of my apps that way and for me, it works great.
 

belvdr

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How is Apple divided? It's simple. Single window applications quit when an application closes the only window; multi-window applications remain running.
I thought you said iPhoto, System Profiler, and iCal stayed open, which are single window apps. I haven't tested yet.

Don't patronize me. I'm more than Windows savvy.
I don't know anything about you, so how could I patronize you? It was a simple tip. It seems the PRSI is getting you. Calm down and realize not everybody is out to put people in their place.

I've heard of 3rd party tools that do this, but I have no idea how reliable they are.
Well how about helping the OP then?

The browser is a good example of that. I never leave the browser window open but I leave the app open so I can use it when I need it. That is just one example--I use pretty much all of my apps that way and for me, it works great.
Question then. How do you open a new window? Do you Command-Tab and then Command-N or do you hit the icon in the dock? I'm a RAM minimalist.
 

bobr1952

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Question then. How do you open a new window? Do you Command-Tab and then Command-N or do you hit the icon in the dock? I'm a RAM minimalist.
I just hit the icon in the dock to bring back the browser. I use the mouse more than short-cuts except for the ones that make my life easier. I am only RAM conscious at the end of the day and usually close most open apps before I put my iMac to sleep. I only have 2GB of RAM, do a fair amount of graphic work and web design in addition to normal things most people do--plus I have music streaming from either Sirius or Slacker the entire time my iMac is awake. I never have RAM issues.
 

Trebuin

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The main issue I have is thunderbird (email). My wife and I both use it, and when I close it, she'll open it up and it will only open my email. She has to remember to completely quit it to allow it to bring the open specific user account when she opens it.
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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The main issue I have is thunderbird (email). My wife and I both use it, and when I close it, she'll open it up and it will only open my email. She has to remember to completely quit it to allow it to bring the open specific user account when she opens it.
And that's why you don't have more than one user using a single user account.
 

TuffLuffJimmy

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System Profiler and iCal close for me when I close their window...
I honestly don't believe you. What OS are you running? I've never come across an OS X machine that quits either application when their windows are closed. In fact I often find system profiler open on various computers in Apple Stores just because some newbies are too used to Windows.