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Discussion in 'Mac and PC Games' started by PhoenixMac, Nov 5, 2010.
which do you think it will play better on?
Mac Pro 5,1 with crossfire 5770s or xbox 360?
PC version will have dedicated servers that is a huge bonus. No more annoying 12-year-old kids.
It's a personal preference. Do your mates game on X360 or PC?
I have the 9th marked on my calendar to make sure I pick it up on my way home from work : )
Looking forward to
-split screen online (inexcusable not to include, so thank god they figured that one out)
-Zombie mode playing as former presidents defending the pentagon. chyeah!
PC is also easily hacked. Will dedicated servers help prevent that? CoD 4 has them and hackers are everywhere.
Also, take into consideration your system's specs. The game will run perfectly on the console, while you might have to tone it down on the PC.
And what controls do you like? I personally prefer mouse and ASDW over controller.
i used to have ps3 that all my friends are on that system but i got tired of it and wanted to try something new so i got xbox kinect so wont be playing with friends online, im pretty comfortable either way, keyboard/mouse or controller
lol guess i wanted someone to make the decision for me with some good reasnos of one over the other as im just getting back into gaming after a little while.
If it's anything like Modern Warfare 2, it will look way better on the PC than the Xbox (and I only have one 5770). Controls are also better on the PC, IMHO.
I know the Xbox is theoretically 1080p, but I have a big TV and I swear there are many many times the resolution drops WAY below that in MW2. It gets downright blocky at times.
Xbox wins for guests mainly because we can game on the couch with split screen, but any time it's solo or MP online, PC for me.
That's an easy one - PC.
Dedicated server support.
Keyboard/mouse and controller support.
If the console version is anything like Modern Warfare 1 or 2 it wont even run at 720p.
It will play great on both, but if you have a gaming PC its always going to run better on the PC.
but since my PC isn't up to snuff when it comes to modern game my 360 will blow it out of the water, i will get it for the 360.
but when it comes to controls i prefer a controller, i am just as good with a controller as someone using a keyboard and mouse ( i have proven that time and time again, and i know that there are others out in the world like that as well).
i play MW2 allot on my 360 and i cant see all of these blocks that people are talking about, i see is a clear picture on my HDTV when i am moving about. they might need to get their eyes checked.
The PC by a a longshot.
Here's more of the same, but just to add to it:
Higher resolution choices.
Did I mention better controls?
Just one of your midish-range 5770s will easily trump the 5 year old GPU found in the XBox. The same goes for your CPU(s).
It depends on the persons control preference. i choose a controller over a keyboard and mouse any day. and i am just as good on it as someone on a keyboard and mouse.
so saying that any one is better then the other would solely depend on the person.
i would like you to point out or toward any computer in the $129 - $199 price range that can out perform a 360 or even a PS3 ? the thing is you cant. that is where a console steps in. the price alone for that mid range 5770 is enough to buy the old style 360 arcade system.
one would have to be stupid to even compare a console to a PC. the PC is more powerful (depending on its spec), i think everyone knows that. BUT you can not beat a consoles Price performance ratio when it comes to games.
My PC has nowhere near the level of performance the 360 does in games and it never will unless i buy new or used faster hardware.
Try playing against someone on a PC with your controller. They'll be able to aim more precisely and orientate faster. It's not subjective here.
get it on the system you play with friends..
Indeed, but to say that a console would be as good as a PC as far as controls go is false.
(I have to say though, after not touching my Xbox 360 for nearly a year and a half, I played Halo on it yesterday and it felt so weird
It's a preference thing. I like a controller more than KB+mouse combo but maybe it's because I've always been a console gamer. PC doesn't have "better" controls than consoles, it's just what you prefer.
what you fail to see is it depends on who is behind the controller. I am just as accurate and just as good as someone on a keyboard and mouse.
what it boils down to is personal preference on what control method one likes to use. I use to be in tournaments in halo 1 on xbox. which is probably why i am so good with a controller. yes there is limits with a controller (as in not being able to look around as fast) but that is a limit that can be overcome depending how you use the controller.
to say one method is better then the other is personal preference. if you like to use a keyboard and mouse more power to you, if you like to use a controller more power to you.
it takes training and skills to be good at using a controller effectively.
You may be skilled with a gamepad, but seriously, don't take me and others here as being so naive as to believe that you're on the same level as someone -- so a person that games on a PC -- that's using a mouse and keyboard(or speedpad) for ANY game that requires pointing, so a FPS as an example.
There's nothing wrong with preference, but to assume that a gamepad is just as good as mouse/keyboard for games like FPSs, or others that were derived on the PC, only goes to show what you don't know.
You're only kidding yourself and if you were local, or a friend, it would be really easy to show why a gamepad can't keep up with a mouse.
Yes, a console does what it does for its price, but for a bit more the PC is in all cases a better investment. It will do games better than a console and if you really have to use a gamepad -- because that's all you really know -- it does that also.
The PC has a higher initial cost, but IT IS A COMPUTER. For about the price of a PS3($350), an extra controller, and a couple of console games I can build a PC that will have no problems playing the games that currently stress out a 360 and as mentioned, it's a computer. And unlike the console, if a user outgrows the PC's performance, they can upgrade it... But with consoles holding back PCs -- which is good in someways -- upgrading isn't as it used to be, where one can truly get by with much less and for way longer when it comes to gaming.
Buying a console to play games that were derived on a PC is not a good investment as the controls are inadequate and there are additional costs -- like online gaming. And just so you know, the mentioned 5770 might be mid-range now, but even a low-end GPU now days like a 9600 GT desktop trumps a consoles performance.
On your stupid comment, which could construed as an insult...
The poster was wondering which system would run BC2 better. I guess the fact I mentioned a complete truth about his CPU and GPU trumping the 360 didn't set well with you. Why don't you keep what I stated in context to what the poster stated next time, because what I said was relevant to his question about which is better.
That's YOUR PC, which is either outdated, or it's a desktop with an integrated Intel GPU. It's not mine, not the posters, and not the case for pretty much any person who's aquired a new "desktop" system with in the past 3 to 4 years.
So what I get from the above statement, is that becasue your PC isn't adequate and you don't care to upgrade it, console gaming is better. SO just because you're stuck in the past, the poster should also remain there, even though his computer is a more capable gaming machine than his console... Go figure...
I played a LOT of Halo 1, 2, and 3, as well as multiple Call of Duty games and other FPSes. On my best day (and I was quite good) I simply could not swivel as quickly as I can when playing Modern Warfare 2 (or any other FPS) on my PC, or shoot as precisely. Why do you think auto-aiming is so often included in consoles?
I don't fail to see anything. When you've had extensive experience with both consoles and PCs, then come talk with us.
sorry buddy but i have probably been playing FPS on a PC for quite a while probably just as long if not longer then you (wolf 3d, RTCW, ET Wolfenstein, doom 1-3, quake 1 - 4, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Unreal, UT99 - , half-life, half-life 2 all eps, portal, zombie panic, L4D, TF, TF2, CS, CS:S, GRAW 1 and 2, rainbow six, halo CE and quite a few others) which my PC is quite capable of playing, its just the newer games my PC wont play, P4 2.8ghz northwood, 2gb ram, Geforce 6800 GT. that is why i have my 360 (not to mention thats where most of my friends play as well) where i play COD 2 3 WAW, MW 1 and 2, L4D2.
so before you say that i need extensive experience with FPS on the PC side (or even on a console for that matter) better making sure you ask the age of the person and how long they have been gaming on a PC (since around 92 or 93 for FPS, and around in the 80s with a Apple IIe). but no matter i still use a controller over a keyboard and mouse on a PC (how else do you think that i know that i am as good with a controller as people are with a keyboard and mouse) i only said i started really using a controller with halo 1 in tournaments and got good at it.
MW2 renders at the stupidly low 1024x600, but the 360 scales it up itself before sending it to your tv.
MW2 for pc renders at whatever you tell it to and is consequently much better looking.
I find it amusing that devs with massive budgets like the MW2 team can't make an engine that actually renders at 720p yet games with much smaller budgets can make prettier games at higher resolutions.
They do its just the current hardware capabilities to render a complex game such as MW2 in true HD just isn't capable enough to do it smoothly or at a playable speed. Thats why they rely on upscaling to reach HD levels. there is a few games that is true HD but those are rather simple games when compared to the likes of MW2 or said game of the like.
they have to do so much optimizing already to get the game to run smoothly on a console due to the CPU's being in order execution vs the PC being out of order execution.
next gen you should see the consoles doing complex games in true HD. this gen was the (so called) real first stab at HD for consoles.
As that may be - it's still better on the PC where you have the option of using a keyboard and mouse, or a controller.
That's why PC gaming is better= the options.
It all depends on the game. The COD games are optimised to constantly run at 60fps because they're twitch/reaction based games. Smaller games are exactly that - smaller. There isn't as much going on in them so they can render at high resolutions. GTAIV also runs at a sub 720p resolution but that's rendering (chucks of) a large city with physics, AI, all manner of shaders and post-processing effects.
No, I've played all of those as well. And if we both had a game that was cross-platform, I'd challenge you and I guarantee that you would lose if you were on a console. This might interest you.
You have to remember that console gamers use a controller while PC gamers use KB&mouse combo. They ALL do. If you're good with PC, then you're likely better than anyone with a controller. Console MW2 is so slow and different from PC version. In PC, I can barely stay alive for 10 seconds. Even if you owned console gamers with mouse+KB, you wouldn't be that great on a PC as other gamers are better as well.
Does it really matter who prefer what and what is better? I'm good on PS3 but I suck on PC, even if I had a controller. I couldn't care less though since I don't play on PC.
If we take e.g. racing game or Fifa&NHL, controller usually wins.
If you are worried about controls, buy a XIM for your 360 or PS3 and you'll be able to play on the console but with keyboard and mouse.
PC is plagued with hackers, it will never change. Simply mute of the immature kids on console and you've got PC experience on console without the hackers, if you get a XIM.
Hackers are not an issue with dedicated servers. If someone hacks, he'll be kicked. That simple.