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College internet blues...I am SO puzzled..
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abhishekit said:
No OS 9 on my PB...Would Classic work?
EDIT: Okay, I launched IE in Classic and IT works...SO I guess it is a Panther problem...How strange...Obviously booting into Classic, and especially using IE, isn't really an option...
So does anyone know where to go from here?
When this happens (when it seems your DNS is down), open a terminal window and type in "host" and a domain name, like "host cnn.com" (without the quotes) and see if it will give you the ip numbers for CNN. Instead of "host" you can also try "nslookup" and a domain, and see what it gives you.
Let us know the results.
Also, what system version are you running?
Let us know the results.
Also, what system version are you running?
Open a terminal window on your girlfriend's PC and run "ipconfig /all". Write down the DNS addresses and then plug them into the DNS Servers list under Network in System Preferences on your Mac.
OR
Use a utility like nslookup, host, or dig to determine the addresses of the DNS servers for the domain you're hosted on.
OR
Call your ISP and beg them for the info.
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Use a utility like nslookup, host, or dig to determine the addresses of the DNS servers for the domain you're hosted on.
OR
Call your ISP and beg them for the info.
yah , i thought it would work. Its more of a problem with safari and panther rather than a panther problem. And I guess all p2p programs lilke limewire or aquisition would work too..jet3004 said:
ok, you can try this one more thing. Call your ISP and ask for the DNS server names. And put them in the now blank DNS servers field. Then see if it works.
Overreactive University?
I'm not sure what your university's policy is on file sharing, but at UCLA they've implemented a new system where "a person is flagged for a copyright infringement violation by a copyright holder, like a music label or movie studio, their IP address is automatically cut off from all network access except university resources, ending the student's ability to swap files."
I have no idea how extensive (or how vague) this program is (i.e. sending a file to a friend down the hall through the network), and if your university is extreme enough to resort to banning your MAC address.
I hope you don't think I'm implying something!
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Well, I guess that isn't it...still, it's something worth noting I suppose.
I'm not sure what your university's policy is on file sharing, but at UCLA they've implemented a new system where "a person is flagged for a copyright infringement violation by a copyright holder, like a music label or movie studio, their IP address is automatically cut off from all network access except university resources, ending the student's ability to swap files."
I have no idea how extensive (or how vague) this program is (i.e. sending a file to a friend down the hall through the network), and if your university is extreme enough to resort to banning your MAC address.
I hope you don't think I'm implying something!
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Well, I guess that isn't it...still, it's something worth noting I suppose.
Punani said:
There are a bunch of ways to get around those things, ya know. I used to be a sysadmin at a nearby university. It was my job to know how to beat the system.
Answers to all questions...
[*]Well, the HOST thing on Terminal did not work. I got :
connection timed out; no servers could be reached.
[*]I am running Panther.
[*]I called my ISP and they are useless and the tech support doesn't even have technicians. They had to schedule one to call me within 24-48 hours. RIDIC-ULOUS. They won't do much, I know...
[*]On my girlfriend's computer, her DNS server showed up as my router address. I tried plugging it in...Didn't do much.
[*] I must confess that in the past, at home, I used some p2p an Bittorent stuff...But rarely. Well, when I got here, naturally, I tried but all of the ports are blocked, so I accepted it, and I haven't touched it since...So it definetly wasn't anything I downloaded or anything. Thanks though...
So here I am with a 24-48 wait....Thanks to all for now!
[*]Well, the HOST thing on Terminal did not work. I got :
connection timed out; no servers could be reached.
[*]I am running Panther.
[*]I called my ISP and they are useless and the tech support doesn't even have technicians. They had to schedule one to call me within 24-48 hours. RIDIC-ULOUS. They won't do much, I know...
[*]On my girlfriend's computer, her DNS server showed up as my router address. I tried plugging it in...Didn't do much.
[*] I must confess that in the past, at home, I used some p2p an Bittorent stuff...But rarely. Well, when I got here, naturally, I tried but all of the ports are blocked, so I accepted it, and I haven't touched it since...So it definetly wasn't anything I downloaded or anything. Thanks though...
So here I am with a 24-48 wait....Thanks to all for now!
Oh yeah, I know. I mean, banning MAC Address really doesn't do much if you know what you're doing.frozenstar said:
tamara6 said:
It's my PB wired to my router wired to the wall.
This is such a tricky situation because everything is so weird. I don't know if it's my PB, my ISP, or my router...There could be so many problems with each one of them which makes this oh so frusterating.
So the easiest thing to do is connect your powerbook directly to the wall. If it works then you know it is your router. I have a friend that has persistant problems with her router and her powerbook - problems just like what you describe. PCs on her network connect just fine, but sometimes her powerbook and router just don't communicate with each other.
What is the IP number that your powerbook has while still connected to the router? What is the IP number that it has when connected directly to your internet service (no router in between)?
What is the IP number that your powerbook has while still connected to the router? What is the IP number that it has when connected directly to your internet service (no router in between)?
jet3004 said:
Okay, the reason host didn't work is because it needs access to a DNS server in order to perform queries. You'll have to manually specify a working DNS server. But forget that for now.
Some routers don't forward actual DNS server addresses when they provide DHCP leases. They just provide their own address and perform name resolution by proxy. So that's what your router is doing. Many routers can display the DNS server fields received from your ISP in the web interface. I'm not sure if yours can; I think you said you tried that though and couldn't find anything.
But if you tried entering the router's address in the DNS Server List under Network in System Preferences and you still weren't able to resolve names, then it seems likely that the problem lies in Panther's networking implementation, for the simple reason that it works on your girlfriend's computer. Just to clarify, you are getting a lease from your router, right? Panther isn't just auto-assigning an internal address? I think the 167 network is used for auto-assignment. Networks like 10 and 192 are used for private networks. That's what you should be seeing in the IP address field in System Preferences.
Either way, it can't hurt to reset your router to factory defaults. If that still doesn't work then just forget about Macs and switch to Windows permanently.
Just kidding about that last part.
There was a bug with nslookupd in 10.2 that would allow nslookup to contact a DNS, but sometimes programs like Safari were not able to. I know they supposedly have fixed this bug, but it doesn't hurt to check.
The next thing we need to know is the IP number that you're being assigned. It could point the way to the problem.
I would guess that the problem comes is between the router and the powerbook. Either your powerbook and router are not talking to each other or the DNS settings are not correct and need to be fixed. The IP number will allow us to know if the powerbook and router are communicating.
The next thing we need to know is the IP number that you're being assigned. It could point the way to the problem.
I would guess that the problem comes is between the router and the powerbook. Either your powerbook and router are not talking to each other or the DNS settings are not correct and need to be fixed. The IP number will allow us to know if the powerbook and router are communicating.
Okay...Well, I just got off the phone with Paetec, the ISP...
In the end (not really), I came up with a few new answers and of course, a few new questions.
1. There is a problem with my router in that it's not sorting out the ISP's IP and so forth...
2. The IP I was getting was wrong and not what I should have been given.
3. He told me the DNS server to use, but said it wasn't really neccesary.
4. He said something about enabling "NAT" on my router.
5. We determined that plugging directly into the wall, I get the right IP and can access the internet. I had tried this several times before but it didn't work....why? See 6.
6. We determined that one of my many cables could indeed be faulty and it just so happened that I used it to connect to.
So I tried working with that info after I hung up the phone and got a few things done but am still puzzled by some...I have 3 ethernet cables. One, which supposedly screwed things up in the first place. One that is too short, and one that is a few inches shorter than that. So it won't reach my desk, but from my router it would. But I can't connect through my router, at least not successfuly and in a way I know how. So I am sitting on my bed, typing this, plugged right into the wall next to me, wondering where in NYC I need to go to get a new ethernet cable.
One thing is bothering me though...The internet is slllooowww. Maybe it's because I AM on a network of tons of people, but it is usually faster during all times of the day. Another thing, upon murdering and resurrecting Safari dozens of times I lost all my bookmarks... iSync with .Mac, right? I thought so too, but can't seem to access it. I keep getting an error. I appreciate all your help in guiding me through this, and unfortunately, I am still accepting suggestions, etc....Thanks!
In the end (not really), I came up with a few new answers and of course, a few new questions.
1. There is a problem with my router in that it's not sorting out the ISP's IP and so forth...
2. The IP I was getting was wrong and not what I should have been given.
3. He told me the DNS server to use, but said it wasn't really neccesary.
4. He said something about enabling "NAT" on my router.
5. We determined that plugging directly into the wall, I get the right IP and can access the internet. I had tried this several times before but it didn't work....why? See 6.
6. We determined that one of my many cables could indeed be faulty and it just so happened that I used it to connect to.
So I tried working with that info after I hung up the phone and got a few things done but am still puzzled by some...I have 3 ethernet cables. One, which supposedly screwed things up in the first place. One that is too short, and one that is a few inches shorter than that. So it won't reach my desk, but from my router it would. But I can't connect through my router, at least not successfuly and in a way I know how. So I am sitting on my bed, typing this, plugged right into the wall next to me, wondering where in NYC I need to go to get a new ethernet cable.
One thing is bothering me though...The internet is slllooowww. Maybe it's because I AM on a network of tons of people, but it is usually faster during all times of the day. Another thing, upon murdering and resurrecting Safari dozens of times I lost all my bookmarks... iSync with .Mac, right? I thought so too, but can't seem to access it. I keep getting an error. I appreciate all your help in guiding me through this, and unfortunately, I am still accepting suggestions, etc....Thanks!
http://www.buffalotech.com/support/faq.php#19
A-ha! I found this on the Buffalo site...SO I guess I'm not the only one, eh?
Well, Paetec gave me this DNS:
DNS1-NYC.PAETEC.NET
I can't type this in on the TCP/IP panel on Network, I don't know why...It only allows some characters.
So I follow those instructions and go through the browser to access the router... and get to the primary and secondary DNS server entry. It says to copy down what you see there, and of course, for me, there is nothing there. Well, I'm stuck in my tracks now because it only allows me to enter a certain amount of characters and only "DNS1-NYC.PAETEC" fits...No ".NET"
So now I don't know what to do...I think I have found a solution, but still not sure.
Right now I am plugged into the wall but it too is NOT 100 percent at all and is kind of screwy. Pages open slow, iChat doesn't work...It's a mess.
A-ha! I found this on the Buffalo site...SO I guess I'm not the only one, eh?
Well, Paetec gave me this DNS:
DNS1-NYC.PAETEC.NET
I can't type this in on the TCP/IP panel on Network, I don't know why...It only allows some characters.
So I follow those instructions and go through the browser to access the router... and get to the primary and secondary DNS server entry. It says to copy down what you see there, and of course, for me, there is nothing there. Well, I'm stuck in my tracks now because it only allows me to enter a certain amount of characters and only "DNS1-NYC.PAETEC" fits...No ".NET"
So now I don't know what to do...I think I have found a solution, but still not sure.
Right now I am plugged into the wall but it too is NOT 100 percent at all and is kind of screwy. Pages open slow, iChat doesn't work...It's a mess.
tamara6 said:
Okay mate...I tried this and put it in the browser config for the router, didn't do much, so then I added it to the Network settings in the TCP/IP section...So then I had my Mac connected to my router connected to the wall. I launched both Safari and Firefox, I typed in www.hiptop.com in Firefox and it came up..I went through the the forums, read some messages, and even replied. So then I did a new tab and typed in www.macrumors.com, couldn't find it. Then I typed in www.gizmodo.com, couldn't find it...Then I did the same with CNN.Com, T-Mobile.Com, etc. Yet, I could still go back and search through Hiptop.com and everything, both in Safari and Firefox. JEEZ, what is up here...