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Color Profiler for M1 Mac

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I'm still moving into my M1 MBP, and decided I would try processing some photos today.

I grabbed my trusty ColorMunki Smile and downloaded the software, only to find it's 32 bit(I skipped Catalina, so I'm just now getting hit hard with 32 bit issues). I can't make sense of what they say about whether or not their current software supports it, but it seems like the ColorMunki Smile is out, so it looks like I'm going to be shopping for a new profiler. I also saw them mentioning M1 issues with the old ones.

What do you all like these days?
 
bunnspecial said:
I'm still moving into my M1 MBP, and decided I would try processing some photos today.

I grabbed my trusty ColorMunki Smile and downloaded the software, only to find it's 32 bit(I skipped Catalina, so I'm just now getting hit hard with 32 bit issues). I can't make sense of what they say about whether or not their current software supports it, but it seems like the ColorMunki Smile is out, so it looks like I'm going to be shopping for a new profiler. I also saw them mentioning M1 issues with the old ones.

What do you all like these days?
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The Colormunki smile hasn’t been supported for a while! The software for the replacement product i1 Display studio isn’t finalised for the M1 chip yet. They are still working on it.
 
Thanks, guess I hadn't paid attention since it's continued working fine in Mojave(I skipped Catalina).

I'll wait for them to get things working right on an M1 and then buy a new one.
 
Glad XRite has it working for M1s now!

Alternately, you can use an excellent freeware called DisplayCAL. I used that in conjunction with XRite software on my machine to do an extensive calibration.
 
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I have a question relating color profiles. Is it possible for multiple ICC profiles for the same monitor to exist at the same time? I have this m1 mac mini and today I found out that I have 4x "LG HDR 4K" icc profiles in my ColorSYnc Utility. The Settings>Displays>Color however show only 2 of them. Is this normal?

The two shown in the second image produce different results on my display when selected. The one on the top is a bit brighter and the one shown selected is a bit contrasty. I can't tell which one is more accurate.

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Sovon Halder said:
I have a question relating color profiles. Is it possible for multiple ICC profiles for the same monitor to exist at the same time? I have this m1 mac mini and today I found out that I have 4x "LG HDR 4K" icc profiles in my ColorSYnc Utility. The Settings>Displays>Color however show only 2 of them. Is this normal?

The two shown in the second image produce different results on my display when selected. The one on the top is a bit brighter and the one shown selected is a bit contrasty. I can't tell which one is more accurate.

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Did you measure the colour and brightness with a colorimeter? If not then neither are accurate.
But you can store as many profiles as you need and switch between as needed. Typically for Photo or video. Or editing compared to print profiling. But you need to measure it for it to have any meaning.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
Did you measure the colour and brightness with a colorimeter? If not then neither are accurate.
But you can store as many profiles as you need and switch between as needed. Typically for Photo or video. Or editing compared to print profiling. But you need to measure it for it to have any meaning.
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I don't have a colorimeter. I have been using this monitor for about 2 years and I have setup my monitor(with the actual hardware buttons on it) according to this tomshardware calibration guide. I have never actually seen multiple "LG HDR 4K" options that produce different results. Where did they come from?
 
Sovon Halder said:
I don't have a colorimeter. I have been using this monitor for about 2 years and I have setup my monitor(with the actual hardware buttons on it) according to this tomshardware calibration guide. I have never actually seen multiple "LG HDR 4K" options that produce different results. Where did they come from?
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To be honest following those settings is pretty pointless. It’s a different panel used for a different length of time. If you want it to be accurate you need to measure it. If not then just pick one. They will all be wrong.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
To be honest following those settings is pretty pointless. It’s a different panel used for a different length of time. If you want it to be accurate you need to measure it. If not then just pick one. They will all be wrong.
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They are expensive and the cheapest one I can find costs nearly half of my monitor's retail price. I'd just love to get some sense of how to read these actual gamut graph(?) or whatever these are called.

This is what was selected by default when I first noticed that there are 2 "LG HDR 4K" in the Color panel. it says it was created today but I don't know how or why.
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And this is the other one. It says it was created in January. The mesh on this graph looks a bit spaced out in this image and when the profile is selected it produces a bit brighter image. Is there any straightforward way to tell the difference between these 2 ICC profiles just by looking at these 2 images - about - where they came from, which software generated them, their display output differences etc? How come they are different despite being the exact same monitor? Also if I delete these profiles, can that lead to any problems?

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And these are the other 2 that are not shown in the Color preferences.

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This one is verrry small.
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Sovon Halder said:
They are expensive and the cheapest one I can find costs nearly half of my monitor's retail price. I'd just love to get some sense of how to read these actual gamut graph(?) or whatever these are called.

This is what was selected by default when I first noticed that there are 2 "LG HDR 4K" in the Color panel. it says it was created today but I don't know how or why.
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And this is the other one. It says it was created in January. The mesh on this graph looks a bit spaced out in this image and when the profile is selected it produces a bit brighter image. Is there any straightforward way to tell the difference between these 2 ICC profiles just by looking at these 2 images - about - where they came from, which software generated them, their display output differences etc? How come they are different despite being the exact same monitor? Also if I delete these profiles, can that lead to any problems?

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And these are the other 2 that are not shown in the Color preferences.

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This one is verrry small.
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Having multiple profiles isn’t an issue. It can only show one at a time. Just select whichever you are happiest with.
But all monitors drift over time. So what D65 100 candellers on your settings today, isn’t the same as those numbers in a month or a year.
 
Apple fanboy said:
So what D65 100 candellers on your settings today, isn’t the same as those numbers in a month or a year.
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I was hoping to install this ICC profile from TFT central submitted by a user who used Spyder4Elite and measured it against a standard "Photo" preset on the monitor. I am a web designer and I also consume a lot of content. I was hoping this could also be a good implementation. Is there anything you can recommend where I don't have to buy any hardware?

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Sovon Halder said:
I was hoping to install this ICC profile from TFT central submitted by a user who used Spyder4Elite and measured it against a standard "Photo" preset on the monitor. I am a web designer and I also consume a lot of content. I was hoping this could also be a good implementation. Is there anything you can recommend where I don't have to buy any hardware?

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Nope. It’s simply not how it works. Someone else’s profile for someone else’s monitor is pointless. Either profile it properly or just do it by eye. But we all see colour differently, so that’s not very reliable either.
 
Every display behaves differently. A profile someone else produced might improve your accuracy — but it’s much more likely that it doesn’t help at all.
As @Apple fanboy said — if you’re looking for accuracy, you have to measure yourself.
 
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