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Boggle said:
Ok, I definately should have tempered my comments. I'm sorry. I lost my temper and was inappropriate. But the post pissed me off.

His comments were thoughtless and mean. The idea that someone is "amazed" when people don't sue requires that you ASSUME the victims would AND SHOULD sue. It also implies that the author of the suggestion is in possession of all the facts. The post I quoted demonstrated no true consideration for the people who attempted to help the victims, the victims themselves, or the 2 families of the victims. It also showed a complete lack of experience around a physical trauma (particularly facial trauma) victim.

In my early 20's I worked on behalf of hospitals, doctors, and patients and have seen some very gruesome sites as a part of that experience. What I can tell you is this. The only people who are ever happy to hear someone suggest a lawsuit are contingency lawyers and people who already want to sue. The people who live and work with the kinds of horrible experiences don't appreciate such comments.

Sincerely,

Boggle.
If you've been around, you'd notice that I hate pointless lawsuits, such as one over this case would be. The sad part is, many people in this situation would listen to some crackpot lawyer who would say "Sue everybody! You deserve compensation! Screw the doctors!", but I DID NOT at any moment advocate them suing anyone. I merely made an observation about the overly-litigious society we're becoming. I really do feel sorry for the family that found out they lost their member after she was buried, and I'm also happy that the other family will be able to see their member recover and enjoy life again. The simple fact that these families have been understanding instead of calling up some scumbag who's sue his own mother.
Frankly, I'm quite insulted that you find my comments "thoughtless and mean," when you're obviously the one needing to think more before posting.

I'd like to thank mkrishnan, dynamicv, Diatribe, and Mr. Durden for actually understanding my post and replying with reason, instead of flying off the handle without understanding the intent behind it. (Wait, didn't you accuse me of not having all the facts? :rolleyes: )
 
I just read the story and my heart goes out to the VanRyns. That would be devestating to have hope like that for five weeks and then have those hopes dashed. I haven't read any of the blogs yet, but I'm assuming their daughter was already buried by the time they found out. Would they try to have another funeral service (change of headstone) then, I'm assuming?

Oh, that's just so sad!
 
Counterfit said:
If you've been around, you'd notice that I hate pointless lawsuits, such as one over this case would be. The sad part is, many people in this situation would listen to some crackpot lawyer who would say "Sue everybody! You deserve compensation! Screw the doctors!", but I DID NOT at any moment advocate them suing anyone. I merely made an observation about the overly-litigious society we're becoming. I really do feel sorry for the family that found out they lost their member after she was buried, and I'm also happy that the other family will be able to see their member recover and enjoy life again. The simple fact that these families have been understanding instead of calling up some scumbag who's sue his own mother.
Frankly, I'm quite insulted that you find my comments "thoughtless and mean," when you're obviously the one needing to think more before posting.

I'd like to thank mkrishnan, dynamicv, Diatribe, and Mr. Durden for actually understanding my post and replying with reason, instead of flying off the handle without understanding the intent behind it. (Wait, didn't you accuse me of not having all the facts? :rolleyes: )

As I said before I lost my temper and was inappropriate. I apollogize. Given my first post in this thread my second post should have ended w/ the apollogy (no matter my feelings on the subject). Again, I'm sorry.
 
It is horrible. But it would have been difficult to ID them - they were focused on saving the ones who lived, and all their purses with ID's inside were thrown around the crash site. The ID of the victim was physical, the women had similar features, and they were probably both banged up more than enough to make identifying difficult.

I can only imagine what will happen now. Will they have to exhume Laura's body to move her body to where her family wants her to be buried, because Whitney's family buried her as their daughter? Will there have to be another funeral?

I can only imagine what each family is feeling at this moment.

Edit: They're doing a memorial service for Laura and in fact are exhuming her body.
 
Boggle said:
As I said before I lost my temper and was inappropriate. I apollogize. Given my first post in this thread my second post should have ended w/ the apollogy (no matter my feelings on the subject). Again, I'm sorry.
I do believe this apology is accepted. Owning up to mistakes is harder than just ignoring them. :)
 
This is really hitting hard because I know a lot of people from the school where these girls are from. Also, I'm spending almost every day visiting my father in the hospital, as he almost died from a massive stroke. The energy and time required is tremendous, and I can begin to appreciate how devastating it would be to find that, for weeks, your whole life has been wrapped up in caring for the wrong person.
 
It's a sad story. :(

but to the running comments about suing. there was a car crash round here several years ago resulting in a little girl dying. Now, the car and driver had no insurance so he had to fork out a lot of his own money.
basically after the whole thing blew over the driver sued the mother of the child he hit and won the money back. happened in Rochdale, incidentally.

I don't know if there is a heaven or a hell. but I hope he burns in hell.
 
I know that this is a reeealllyy old thread, but I saw an update to this today in the paper and decided to resurrect this thread rather than make a new one.

Yahoo! News said:
Crash survivor in ID mix-up writes book

By JOHN FLESHER, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 26, 9:27 AM ET

Critically injured in a highway crash that killed five others, mourned as dead by relatives and friends after a stunning identity mix-up, Whitney Cerak still marvels at being alive — and wonders why.
"I'm the only person I know who's listened to her own funeral," the 20-year-old says in the epilogue of a new book written by the families whose lives were intertwined in an ordeal of joy, sorrow and faith. "That was pretty weird."
Why did she survive the wreck on April 26, 2006, when four fellow students and a staff member from Taylor University in Upland, Ind., did not?
"I still don't get that," Cerak writes in "Mistaken Identity: Two Families, One Survivor, Unwavering Hope," which was released Tuesday. "Maybe I'm not supposed to. Even if I can't figure it out, I know that God has a purpose for it, even if I never completely understand what it may be."
Cerak, who grew up in Gaylord, Mich., spent five weeks in a coma while the parents of Laura Van Ryn stood vigil by her side, believing she was their daughter.
Authorities in Grant County, Ind., had confused the two young women during the chaotic aftermath of the collision between a semi-truck and a school van on Interstate 69, midway between Indianapolis and Fort Wayne. Their blond hair and even some facial features were similar.
Cerak's parents, Newell and Colleen Cerak, declined to view the body they believed was their daughter's, preferring to remember Whitney as she had appeared in life.
Meanwhile, Don and Susie Van Ryn — and others who knew Laura — believed her appearance had been altered by facial injuries. Only when she began mentioning strange names while slowly regaining consciousness did they suspect something was amiss, the 275-page book explains.
One day, her physical therapist asked the patient to write her name on a sheet of paper. "WHITNEY," the woman wrote. As her father wheeled her back to her room, she mumbled, "False parents."
Uncertainty gnawing at her, Van Ryn's sister, Lisa, watched a "memories of Whitney" video the family had been sent. The eyes, the teeth, eerily resembled those of the person she thought was her sister.
Her father checked with one of the people who had identified the victims at the crash scene. There was "room for doubt," the person admitted.
Finally, after another therapy session, Lisa knelt in front of the young woman and asked her name. Whitney, was the response. And her last name? Cerak.
The Van Ryns were devastated, but quickly arranged for dental records to be checked.
That night, Colleen Cerak was awakened by a phone call from the Grant County coroner. "We have reason to believe your daughter may be alive," he said. Whitney's sister, Carly, furiously urged her mother to hang up, believing it was a prank.
But within hours, they stood at Whitney's bedside, sobbing with joy.
"Mistaken Identity," co-written with author Mark Tabb and published by Howard Books, a division of Simon & Schuster, weaves together narrative and religious testimony.
Both families are deeply committed Christians; Newell Cerak is a pastor at Gaylord Evangelical Free Church.
They say although uncomfortable in the media spotlight, they are telling their story to share "how God has sustained two families through His grace." They have heard from people around the world who were inspired by their strong faith.
The book also is a story of healing — for the Ceraks, Van Ryns and others.
Whitney has made a remarkable recovery and is on track to graduate from Taylor next year, university spokesman Jim Garringer told The Associated Press. She is spending this semester in Ireland in a study-abroad program.
 
People look so different in a hospital setting with no daily showers, no hair fixing, no makeup, oxygen masks on, not to mention bruises and other injuries that may have changed their appearance, that it's out-of-the-ordinary but not inconceivable that parents wouldn't know it wasn't their daughter, especially given the fact that officials told them it was their daughter and that what really happened would be too farfetched for them to think of.

So until their "daughter" was lucid enough to not act like their daughter, they simply didn't know.

Yes, I thought the same thing. It's probably an easy mistake to make. You'd like to think that you'd recognize your own daughter/son/friend/relative in a hospital, but with enough cuts, bruises, bandaging, and/or a brace, it is probably quite difficult.

I'm amazed that the families are both so understanding. Most people would have filed a suit already.
I merely made an observation about the overly-litigious society we're becoming.


I'm surprised too. It's America after all.

Boggle just overreacted. I'm surprised why he doesn't understand that the chance of a lawsuit is there. It's always there, even when it doesn't make sense.
 
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