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We need Xcode for iOS, and we have Mavericks, and a new ML that came out today. I have a feeling 4 wasn't released because maybe the beta needed a full restore, instead of OTA, or the simple fact that we didn't have the new build of Xcode to develop

I hear you but Xcode comes after IOS.

""We plan to roll out our updated systems, starting with Certificates, Identifiers & Profiles, Apple Developer Forums, Bug Reporter, pre-release developer libraries, and videos first. Next, we will restore software downloads, so that the latest betas of iOS 7, Xcode 5, and OS X Mavericks will once again be available to program members. We’ll then bring the remaining systems online""
 
Well you said you wouldn't be surprised if we woke up to beta 4. I'm just pointing out that this could take longer than we think.

I wouldn't be surprised, would you? Why would it be surprising if it came out in 10 minutes? What's your fascination with next Monday?
 
Maybe because it comes out on Mondays.

You believe that IOS Betas only come out on Mondays? So you believe if they were going to release on Monday the 22nd but were held up because of being hacked that they would intentionally stall until the next Monday because they only release on Mondays? Seriously now......you really believe that?
 
I hope this means that everyone will be able to get their hands on beta 4 soon, I'm looking forward to seeing what changes have been made and how everything's developing for the final release.
 
You believe that IOS Betas only come out on Mondays? So you believe if they were going to release on Monday the 22nd but were held up because of being hacked that they would intentionally stall until the next Monday because they only release on Mondays? Seriously now......you really believe that?

I'm all for wishful thinking like the next guy, but he is saying perhaps it wasn't even supposed to come out the 22nd and that it will be released on a newer 3 weeks cycle, which means is coming Monday the 29th. However, it could truly be that it was supposed to come out this past Monday, but who really knows? They'll just release it when they want. Just be patient.
 
I'm all for wishful thinking like the next guy, but he is saying perhaps it wasn't even supposed to come out the 22nd and that it will be released on a newer 3 weeks cycle, which means is coming Monday the 29th. However, it could truly be that it was supposed to come out this past Monday, but who really knows? They'll just release it when they want. Just be patient.

I'm in no rush. I wait a day or two to install anyway so that I can read everyones posts about it. Cant get call on B3 so if B4 is the same then why bother?
 
Its interesting to note that they were able to push out OSX Maverick Developer Preview 4 update 2 days back when all this is still showing down :D
 
No one really knows when it was supposed to come out but my bet is that it was supposed to out 3 weeks after Beta 3!
 
Its interesting to note that they were able to push out OSX Maverick Developer Preview 4 update 2 days back when all this is still showing down :D
In case of an OS X update could all be done through the Mac App Store, without the need for the dev center.
 
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