Coming from Windows Phone to iOS... what I think

TSE

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I am coming from a Windows Phone to iOS, I just got an iPhone 5S two weeks ago. The Nokia was a 920, by the way. Here is my opinion on the matter:

-The Metro UI is actually BETTER! This is the best UI on the market right now. It seems like small things like deleting text messages, contacts, etc. are just common sense on a Windows Phone whereas on an iPhone they aren't. I'm not saying iOS 7 is BAD, as I think it has more attention to detail than a lot of Android UIs, but Metro is just better.

-The web browsing experience is a lot better than Windows Phone. I am comparing stock web browsers here. iOS's Safari is faster, renders websites better, and has better features.

-Navigation... equal, until you get poor reception. I didn't notice a difference in quality until I was driving in the country and my iPhone's navigation app went funky, whereas with Nokia's stock offline maps app would have had no problem.

-Apps - to me, equal. I am not an App maniac. I download maybe 6-7 apps that I use consistently, and leave it at that. Windows Phone has all the apps I need, iOS does too. I think a lot of people blow the app argument out of proportion. Windows App Store is solid nowadays.

-Cases - this is one thing that kinda irks me about any other phone besides the big sellers (iPhone, Galaxy, etc.)... lack of choice when it comes to cases. I got a Lifeproof Nuud and love it. There's maybe 4-5 cases, a lot of them junk, for any Nokia model.

-Hardware - Not going to compare specs or anything, just the feel of the industrial design. Nokia focuses on having an inviting-looking phone, whereas Apple focuses on having an industrial, sleek looking phone. I prefer Nokia's industrial design language, but I don't like the way they use glossy plastic on a lot of their phones. Both are comfortable to hold.

-Battery life - iPhone crushes it, no doubt. This is one of Windows Phone's weak suits, as their phones usually run last-gen or mid-tier cpus that perform great since the OS is so optimized, but usually take a lot of battery life.

-Overall: I would say my experience has IMPROVED since going to the iPhone, with the addition of more battery life and better web browsing, but I would take Nokia back in a heartbeat for my next phone if they have a good phone out when my contract ends. Nokia and Windows Phone has a lot to offer, their biggest weakness I would say is the lack of using current gen CPUs... besides the 1520 (which is way too big in my opinion)... even the Lumia 1020 uses last gen, mid range CPUs although most reviewers say that the camera app is sometimes slow. This boggles my mind and was the deciding factor when it came down to choosing between these two companies.
 

CyanLite

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With my experience with Windows Phone, I have found that many websites get checkerboards when zooming in and out... Really annoying and seems to happen in the 1520 as well.. Wonder why that happens
 

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With my experience with Windows Phone, I have found that many websites get checkerboards when zooming in and out... Really annoying and seems to happen in the 1520 as well.. Wonder why that happens
Don't know if the checkerboarding still happens with the newest A7 chip on the 5S and iPad Air/Mini 2, but on all previous versions, including my Mini, checkerboarding is common on iDevices too.

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-The Metro UI is actually BETTER! This is the best UI on the market right now. It seems like small things like deleting text messages, contacts, etc. are just common sense on a Windows Phone whereas on an iPhone they aren't. I'm not saying iOS 7 is BAD, as I think it has more attention to detail than a lot of Android UIs, but Metro is just better.
I have to disagree with you on this. While iOS UI is boring and static, WP8 lacks simple things like a Notification Center and status bar updates. This should be fixed with the upcoming Black update, but until then WP UI is lacking. Android has the best UI. Not because of how it comes out of the box, but because you can customize it to 'your' own specs and tastes.


-Apps - to me, equal. I am not an App maniac. I download maybe 6-7 apps that I use consistently, and leave it at that. Windows Phone has all the apps I need, iOS does too. I think a lot of people blow the app argument out of proportion. Windows App Store is solid nowadays.
It's not blown out of proportion and it certainly isn't equal. There are a ton of apps I simply can't get on my Windows Phone because A. I don't have the 1gb of prequisite RAM or B. The app doesn't exist on Windows Phone yet.

Sorry, but WP isn't even a distant 3rd to iOS or Android.
 

deluxeshredder

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-The "Modern" UI is actually BETTER! This is the best UI on the market right now. It seems like small things like deleting text messages, contacts, etc. are just common sense on a Windows Phone whereas on an iPhone they aren't. I'm not saying iOS 7 is BAD, as I think it has more attention to detail than a lot of Android UIs, but Metro is just better.
I really like Windows Phone UI, but it still isn't as good as classic iOS.

-The web browsing experience is a lot better than Windows Phone. I am comparing stock web browsers here. iOS's Safari is faster, renders websites better, and has better features.
I think that iOS Safari is one of the very few decent redesigns (apart from the white chrome and neon colours).

-Navigation... equal, until you get poor reception. I didn't notice a difference in quality until I was driving in the country and my iPhone's navigation app went funky, whereas with Nokia's stock offline maps app would have had no problem.
There are various offline map options for iOS, too.
 

mclld

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I really like WP but they need to do something with their store design/layout
 

TSE

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There are various offline map options for iOS, too.
I enjoy the Nokia apps because they are basically built-in, consistent with the UI, and it seems as though a lot of iOS offline maps apps that I looked at were mediocre compared to the Nokia maps. I will try some out and update this thread in a month or two, but for now what I've seen and even what Ive known (having to research the offline maps for an hour or two whereas Nokia's suite is built in), Nokia's implementation is better.
 

dba415

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Why didn't you bring up the lack of notification center, or the list view of apps that Windows Phone has?

iOS is just way more refined than Windows Phone which is why it is better at this point in time.
 

laserfox

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Why didn't you bring up the lack of notification center, or the list view of apps that Windows Phone has?

iOS is just way more refined than Windows Phone which is why it is better at this point in time.
What's wrong with wp app list? I love it. if you dont want to pin everything - say you want pandora tap a letter jump to p - pandora! you can also search the list.

on iOS i've seen friends forget which folder they put an app in or which homescreen its on (i know u can also search)
 

Lloydbm41

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What's wrong with wp app list? I love it. if you dont want to pin everything - say you want pandora tap a letter jump to p - pandora! you can also search the list.

on iOS i've seen friends forget which folder they put an app in or which homescreen its on (i know u can also search)
I used an app that Jessica recommended called HeaderTiles to separate my sections on my WP. That way, I can scroll down the main page quickly to find apps, or media or whatever I label the section. No need to scroll to the right to get to the app list.
 

Mackan

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-The Metro UI is actually BETTER! This is the best UI on the market right now. It seems like small things like deleting text messages, contacts, etc. are just common sense on a Windows Phone whereas on an iPhone they aren't. I'm not saying iOS 7 is BAD, as I think it has more attention to detail than a lot of Android UIs, but Metro is just better.
I personally cannot get used to simple squares and single color themed pages that defines the Modern UI. It's an interesting design, but it just feels very wrong for me. I think Microsoft is on the wrong track, sadly.

Have my doubts for iOS 7 UI as well, and the Android UI is boring as heck. So crap, seems like nothing left...
 

Lloydbm41

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I personally cannot get used to simple squares and single color themed pages that defines the Modern UI. It's an interesting design, but it just feels very wrong for me. I think Microsoft is on the wrong track, sadly.

Have my doubts for iOS 7 UI as well, and the Android UI is boring as heck. So crap, seems like nothing left...
Android ui is boring? Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Cause if Android is your idea of boring, then you must want to kill yourself over iOS.
 

Mackan

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Android ui is boring? Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Cause if Android is your idea of boring, then you must want to kill yourself over iOS.
Indeed, iOS got very boring.

While Android offers different flavours, I think Google's standard implementation is boring. And the others, TouchWiz, Sense, etc is nothing I would like to use either.

I would prefer if Google could offer something fresh. It feels like they are holding back in order to not angry their partners, but I hope they offer a fresh new Android 5.0 UI that is quite different, and that syncs with what I like.
 

TSE

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This is very subjective and I completely disagree. Can't stand the Metro UI.
It seems to be a very polarizing topic. I think for phones and touchscreen tablets/monitors the Metro/Modern UI is very, very awesome to use and beautiful. For non-touch computers though (Windows 8), it's awful.

What don't you like about it?
 

MRU

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It seems to be a very polarizing topic. I think for phones and touchscreen tablets/monitors the Metro/Modern UI is very, very awesome to use and beautiful. For non-touch computers though (Windows 8), it's awful.

What don't you like about it?
Yep on my surface pro 2 the modern ui is great, take away that touch and replace with mouse gestures and it falls apart.

My only gripe with it on mobile is that it often can get very cluttered when you've pinned your apps to the main screen and can be a barrage of the senses which goes against the clean simplicity the UI was meant to represent.

I'd like to see it on a bigger device for myself though, and was tempted with the 1520 :)
 

ozaz

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Yep on my surface pro 2 the modern ui is great, take away that touch and replace with mouse gestures and it falls apart.

My only gripe with it on mobile is that it often can get very cluttered when you've pinned your apps to the main screen and can be a barrage of the senses which goes against the clean simplicity the UI was meant to represent.

I'd like to see it on a bigger device for myself though, and was tempted with the 1520 :)
When I was trying a windows phone, I liked the UI very much. But I was quite frugal with what I pinned to the start screen, limiting it to only the apps I used very regularly. I felt this gave a much less cluttered experience than the multiple screens of icons I get on my iPhone.
 

jamezr

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I am coming from a Windows Phone to iOS, I just got an iPhone 5S two weeks ago. The Nokia was a 920, by the way. Here is my opinion on the matter:

-The Metro UI is actually BETTER! This is the best UI on the market right now. It seems like small things like deleting text messages, contacts, etc. are just common sense on a Windows Phone whereas on an iPhone they aren't. I'm not saying iOS 7 is BAD, as I think it has more attention to detail than a lot of Android UIs, but Metro is just better.

-The web browsing experience is a lot better than Windows Phone. I am comparing stock web browsers here. iOS's Safari is faster, renders websites better, and has better features.

-Navigation... equal, until you get poor reception. I didn't notice a difference in quality until I was driving in the country and my iPhone's navigation app went funky, whereas with Nokia's stock offline maps app would have had no problem.

-Apps - to me, equal. I am not an App maniac. I download maybe 6-7 apps that I use consistently, and leave it at that. Windows Phone has all the apps I need, iOS does too. I think a lot of people blow the app argument out of proportion. Windows App Store is solid nowadays.

-Cases - this is one thing that kinda irks me about any other phone besides the big sellers (iPhone, Galaxy, etc.)... lack of choice when it comes to cases. I got a Lifeproof Nuud and love it. There's maybe 4-5 cases, a lot of them junk, for any Nokia model.

-Hardware - Not going to compare specs or anything, just the feel of the industrial design. Nokia focuses on having an inviting-looking phone, whereas Apple focuses on having an industrial, sleek looking phone. I prefer Nokia's industrial design language, but I don't like the way they use glossy plastic on a lot of their phones. Both are comfortable to hold.

-Battery life - iPhone crushes it, no doubt. This is one of Windows Phone's weak suits, as their phones usually run last-gen or mid-tier cpus that perform great since the OS is so optimized, but usually take a lot of battery life.

-Overall: I would say my experience has IMPROVED since going to the iPhone, with the addition of more battery life and better web browsing, but I would take Nokia back in a heartbeat for my next phone if they have a good phone out when my contract ends. Nokia and Windows Phone has a lot to offer, their biggest weakness I would say is the lack of using current gen CPUs... besides the 1520 (which is way too big in my opinion)... even the Lumia 1020 uses last gen, mid range CPUs although most reviewers say that the camera app is sometimes slow. This boggles my mind and was the deciding factor when it came down to choosing between these two companies.
Very nice honest write up. I have been very interested in Nokia phones with Windows. I am not sure i am ready to try one yet. Thanks for the write up and neutrality…refreshing to read.
 

b166er

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I have to disagree with you on this. While iOS UI is boring and static, WP8 lacks simple things like a Notification Center and status bar updates. This should be fixed with the upcoming Black update, but until then WP UI is lacking. Android has the best UI. Not because of how it comes out of the box, but because you can customize it to 'your' own specs and tastes.
This is not part of the Black update. Black has actually been out for a while, just not for all devices/carriers. The 1520 shipped with it, and it's been rolling out to other Lumias since. According to rumor, 8.1 will have a full blown notification center/quick toggles as well as an integrated voice assistant and some other things that will bring WP8 closer to iOS/Android. Expected in the spring. Though I'd take all the rumors with a grain of salt.

I use iOS, Android, and WP8 regularly. To me, I see each has clear advantages and disadvantages. The WP8 UI is the most satisfying experience for me overall, but it's app selection (while it has improved a ton lately) is by far its biggest flaw. Google has almost no presence on WP8 and that is holding the platform back, in my opinion.

I liked Android just fine, but I don't really need it in my pocket. I'll take the better battery life and better camera. If more of my friends were using Android, I probably would too just to make keeping in touch easier. But oddly, a lot of my friends don't use Google services at all so hangouts/chat/G+/etc are all not things I miss right now.
 
I like Windows Phone, but it is perhaps lacking a few too many features and apps, at the moment. For navigation, out of the box, it is unbeatable. Things I'd like to see in Windows Phone:

- Proper notification centre
- Proper multi tasking*
- Not just more apps, but also apps on a par with iOS and Android**.

* I hate the whole tombstoning/resuming aspect that Microsoft enforces. When Skype is not in the foreground (or the phone is sleeping), it's hit or miss as to whether I receive an IM. Side by side, my iPad, Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 are all more reliable. When I'm on the move, I'm dependent on Skype for our project team chats.

** I can't comment on a Guardian article, from the Windows Phone Guardian app. Bing News is held up as a great example of how it should be done, but there's no way to share an article to Facebook or Twitter from within the app.
 

ucfgrad93

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It seems to be a very polarizing topic. I think for phones and touchscreen tablets/monitors the Metro/Modern UI is very, very awesome to use and beautiful. For non-touch computers though (Windows 8), it's awful.

What don't you like about it?
It looks cluttered and I don't like how menu words run off the edge of the screen.
 

thehustleman

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I like windows phone, but it isn't the best and until a few new things come into play, it cannot and will not be my daily phone.

I rank them like this

1. Android - because the capabilities are endless, and anything you don't like, you change it to something you do like or just use it right out the box. It's your choice, it's how a smartphone is supposed to be

2. Jailbroken IOS - you have to jailbreak Ios to get a great user experience out of it. Apple cripples their phones.

3. Windows phone 8 - they brought windows wallet, NFC, song identification, translation, all this is STOCK! available at first boot. Unfortunately it's a closed system so you don't have the ability to do things a smartphone should do

4. Non-jailbroken Ios - just too limiting. Stuck with a terrible keyboard, can't change default camera, browser (due to their bs, you wouldn't want to change browsers), can't delete all contacts /texts at a time, no time stamp option, can't change the music player, have to use iTunes, and until the recent Android copycat move, you couldn't just do quick toggles



All are good, but overall I like windows phone 8,it just has a long way to go
 

DeathTheKid

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Wow..great review. When I was on Sprint, I had a Windows Phone, an HTC Arrive. I was very impressed with the simplicity of the interface. This was back when Mango was the highest version.

Some of the quirks I noticed back then were lack of a VPN. Also, this was before Nokia maps. You had to use Bing maps and whenever you got to a turn it would make a chime and you would have to tap the screen to get the voice to tell you the next direction.

I would of possibly gone for a Windows Phone 8 back when I switched to AT&T, but there were no Windows Phone 8 phones out, so I got an iPhone--which I do like a lot. Small, smooth and simple just the way a phone should be.
 
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