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Command and Conquer 3 - Group Unit Shortcut

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DaLurker

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Just curious, has anybody else noticed that you can't group units on the Mac version of Command and Conquer 3? I've tried using ctrl+1 (or any number from 0-9) and it just doesn't work.

Its really frustrating since grouping units is key when I'm playing RTS. If anybody has experienced this and fixed it, pleas let me know!
 
I've got c & c 3 working on os x and I can group units fine, just as in any other version of c & c. Are you sure that you're pressing ctrl and not command?
 
Actually, I have the same problem. I used to play C&C Generals and I always used CTRL + numbers in top of the alpha keyboard but with C&C3 I can't get it work !


Teddy, do you have a laptop or a desktop ? Because I have a laptop, it can be the reason.
 
I have an iMac G5 and ctrl + # works fine for me.

I know keyboard commands can vary slightly with laptops (stupid), so try another modifier key like the Function key or Shift key.

Also, Google might help. I have found many answers on my own by taking the time to research (and I am not trying to be a smart ass).
 
Since 3 days, I am searching google for answers. This is how I found this thread. Maybe I'm not using the right keywords but I did not find much stuff.

What is good to know it's this is working for other configurations, so I will try on my iMac instead of my laptop to know if this is a french keyboard only bug.

How can you change the key modifier ? I didn't find the group unit line in C&C settings, so can you help me ?

Edit : Woow, stop, how can you play Command and Conquer 3 on an iMac G5 ? It's a Cyder port, so Intel only....
 
Perhaps the person has an older version of C&C, because C&C3 is intel only.

On mac laptop, the F keys are usually mapped to the special functions such as screen brightness, volumes, etc.

Thus, you need to press "fn" if you want it only to work as F keys, so
example: fn + ctrl + 1..

You can switch them to regular F keys on laptops, go:
System Preferences / Keyboard & Mouse / Keyboard
and check the appropriate option.
 
The fact is Fn is for function keys, and it is not affecting keys in top of the keyboard and under function keys.

Milhouse.
 
problem grouping units

i'm using an intel aluminum imac and i have the same problem. i noticed that by default (in settings/options/hot keys), the control key is mapped to force attack. when i hold down control, the mouse icon changes to the attack icon. i'm on the latest patch 1.09 btw. not being able to group units really bogs down my game... is this problem officially recognised and anyone found a fix? it's weird because even in the manuals, control + # is the command given to group units.
 
I was NOT able to change this behavior by changing my keyboard layout from French to English. So I guess it's not a language problem. I'm trying to contact EA France but they are quite stupid saying that Aspyr is the distributor of C&C3.....

I will try with EA US.
 
group unit fix!

i found 2 uses for control + # in leopard. spaces and language settings with different input options. i disabled spaces and i've only set US english as my input method. grouping now works. i'm not sure which one is affecting the game, but since those 2 are system wide shortcuts, i'm guessing both (didn't want to perform too many trial and errors). if you're only using one language input method, then just disable spaces. :) happy gaming!
 
Group Unit Problem

I also have had this problem. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I normally run disk permissions, re-start, and all is well. I tried the turning spaces off and the international menu change, but I already have those disabled. I am using US english. I have a Macbook Pro. Please help.
 
c&c3 problem

(I also have had this problem. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I normally run disk permissions, re-start, and all is well. I tried the turning spaces off and the international menu change, but I already have those disabled. I am using US english. I have a Macbook Pro. Please help.)

I've the same problem sometimes it works sometimes it does not.

please if anyone find the solution post it....:apple::apple:
 
Hmmm, interesting, I'm using a iMac 2.4 and grouping works just fine... Which patch level are you using?
 
intermittent problem.

I have the 1.08 and 1.09 patch as well.

As stated above, I use disk utilities, repair permissions and restart. At that point it works for quite awhile.

When I do have problems, I noticed I can still group using 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0. I can't use 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Any new ideas would be appreciated.
 
mistert22 said:
I have the 1.08 and 1.09 patch as well.

As stated above, I use disk utilities, repair permissions and restart. At that point it works for quite awhile.

When I do have problems, I noticed I can still group using 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0. I can't use 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Any new ideas would be appreciated.
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My best guess at this point is keyboard mappings, I'm using the "newest" iMac keyboard, which is mapped differently from previous versions. I do have Expose & Spaces enabled and that doesn't pose any problems. If you have the ability to try using a newer Mac keyboard (w/number pad) and a 3 button USB mouse (not the mighty mouse) you may find your problems go away. If this works have a hard look at your keyboard mappings (check Spaces first) to move the conflicting setup(s). I've noticed that C&C3 does a pretty good job of overriding the application UI layer, so this is most likely a system process conflicting with the game. Unfortunately, I don't see a way to re-map C&C3.

*EDIT* - to test the Spaces theory, change the number of spaces you have enabled from 4 to 2 and see if that reduces your problem allowing you to set grouping on numbers 3 and 4. A colleague suggested this.

The disk utilities/repair permissions fix is puzzling, without examining your machine I'd say one or both of those utilities are interrupting some key mappings (either by shutting down/suspending a process or performing some override in the windowing subsystem). The fact that this works seems like a side effect, rather than a cure. Which would explain why the problem returns as some other process or cron job restarts the process that handles those particular mappings. Laptops should theoretically have more of a problem with this than desktops.

Again, I don't personally encounter this problem (yesterday I thoroughly tested this functionality :D ), these suggestions are just a best guess based on the problem(s) described.

Hope this helps,

G
 
Same problem here. I just bought the game. I've tried a lot of things, on 2 different macs, I tried a different keyboard, but there is no change.

When you speak about US english, do you speak about the computer's language, or the keyboard? And, where are you from you guys? Because I'm French and I bought the UK version (which is imported so the US then). 20 euros instead of 55, that explains my choice. Do you think it's related to that? The ultimate test would be then to plug a qwerty keyboard, but I don't have that at my grasp.

I also thought of something else, maybe we could locate the file that contains the keyboard config and replace it by one of another version, FR in my case.
 
People, I think that replacing the preference folder should do it. Could any french player share his? That would be really helpful, thanks.
 
ipsum said:
People, I think that replacing the preference folder should do it. Could any french player share his? That would be really helpful, thanks.
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You're actually right. Here is a way of doing it :
Check for a file called hotkeys.ini located in ~/Library/Preferences/Command and Conquer 3 Preferences/p_drive/Application Data/Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars/Profiles/(your profile name)/
You can also Spotlight for hotkeys.ini, and check you got the right folder
It lists all the key combinations used by your profile ( including the ones you cannot set in the key input menu in-game ). If you are a little imaginative you can change the keys related to the three functions :
AddToGroup#
CreateGroup#
ViewGroup#

I didn't need to roll around the camera, so I basically listed the keypad numbers for the unit groups, and unassigned the keypad numbers to the camera motion. My hotkeys.ini therefore looks like that :

Code: 
AddToGroup0 = KEY_KP0 SHIFT
AddToGroup1 = KEY_KP1 SHIFT
AddToGroup2 = KEY_KP2 SHIFT
AddToGroup3 = KEY_KP3 SHIFT
AddToGroup4 = KEY_KP4 SHIFT
AddToGroup5 = KEY_KP5 SHIFT
AddToGroup6 = KEY_KP6 SHIFT
AddToGroup7 = KEY_KP7 SHIFT
AddToGroup8 = KEY_KP8 SHIFT
AddToGroup9 = KEY_KP9 SHIFT
AttackMove = KEY_A
CameraReset = KEY_NONE
CameraRotateLeft = KEY_NONE
CameraRotateRight = KEY_NONE
CameraScrollDown = KEY_DOWN
CameraScrollLeft = KEY_LEFT
CameraScrollRight = KEY_RIGHT
CameraScrollUp = KEY_UP
CameraZoomIn = KEY_NONE
CameraZoomOut = KEY_NONE
ChatWithAllies = KEY_BACKSPACE
ChatWithEveryone = KEY_ENTER
CreateGroup0 = KEY_KP0 CTRL
CreateGroup1 = KEY_KP1 CTRL
CreateGroup2 = KEY_KP2 CTRL
CreateGroup3 = KEY_KP3 CTRL
CreateGroup4 = KEY_KP4 CTRL
CreateGroup5 = KEY_KP5 CTRL
CreateGroup6 = KEY_KP6 CTRL
CreateGroup7 = KEY_KP7 CTRL
CreateGroup8 = KEY_KP8 CTRL
CreateGroup9 = KEY_KP9 CTRL
CycleHarvesters = KEY_N
ForceAttack = KEY_NONE CTRL
ForceAttackMove = KEY_F
ForceMove = KEY_G
GoToNextBuildQueue = KEY_TAB
GoToPriorBuildQueue = KEY_TAB CTRL
GoToViewBookmark1 = KEY_J
GoToViewBookmark2 = KEY_K
GoToViewBookmark3 = KEY_L
GoToViewBookmark4 = KEY_M
GoToViewBookmark5 = KEY_NONE
GoToViewBookmark6 = KEY_NONE
GoToViewBookmark7 = KEY_NONE
GoToViewBookmark8 = KEY_NONE
OpenMessenger = KEY_I
OpenPauseScreen = KEY_ESC
OpenStatusScreen = KEY_O
PlaceBeacon = KEY_B
PlaceRallyPoint = KEY_R CTRL
PlanningMode = KEY_Z CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot1 = KEY_F1 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot10 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot11 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot12 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot13 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot14 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot15 = KEY_NONE
PlayerPowerButtonSlot2 = KEY_F2 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot3 = KEY_F3 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot4 = KEY_F4 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot5 = KEY_F5 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot6 = KEY_F6 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot7 = KEY_F7 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot8 = KEY_F8 CTRL
PlayerPowerButtonSlot9 = KEY_NONE
PreferSelection = KEY_NONE SHIFT
ReverseMove = KEY_D
SaveViewBookmark1 = KEY_J CTRL
SaveViewBookmark2 = KEY_K CTRL
SaveViewBookmark3 = KEY_L CTRL
SaveViewBookmark4 = KEY_M CTRL
SaveViewBookmark5 = KEY_NONE
SaveViewBookmark6 = KEY_NONE
SaveViewBookmark7 = KEY_NONE
SaveViewBookmark8 = KEY_NONE
Scatter = KEY_X CTRL
SelectAll = KEY_Q
SelectGroup0 = KEY_KP0
SelectGroup1 = KEY_KP1
SelectGroup2 = KEY_KP2
SelectGroup3 = KEY_KP3
SelectGroup4 = KEY_KP4
SelectGroup5 = KEY_KP5
SelectGroup6 = KEY_KP6
SelectGroup7 = KEY_KP7
SelectGroup8 = KEY_KP8
SelectGroup9 = KEY_KP9
SelectMatchingUnits = KEY_W
SellMode = KEY_Z
ShowAllHealthBars = KEY_TICK CTRL
SideBarAircraftPage = KEY_U
SideBarButtonSlot1 = KEY_F1
SideBarButtonSlot10 = KEY_F10
SideBarButtonSlot11 = KEY_NONE
SideBarButtonSlot12 = KEY_NONE
SideBarButtonSlot2 = KEY_F2
SideBarButtonSlot3 = KEY_F3
SideBarButtonSlot4 = KEY_F4
SideBarButtonSlot5 = KEY_F5
SideBarButtonSlot6 = KEY_F6
SideBarButtonSlot7 = KEY_F7
SideBarButtonSlot8 = KEY_F8
SideBarButtonSlot9 = KEY_F9
SideBarInfantryPage = KEY_T
SideBarMainStructurePage = KEY_E
SideBarOtherStructurePage = KEY_R
SideBarSelectionRefinementPage = KEY_TICK
SideBarVehiclePage = KEY_Y
StanceAggressive = KEY_A ALT
StanceGuard = KEY_S ALT
StanceHoldFire = KEY_F ALT
StanceHoldPosition = KEY_D ALT
Stop = KEY_S
TelestratorErase = KEY_DEL
TelestratorNextColor = KEY_PGUP
TelestratorNextLineWidth = KEY_INS
TelestratorPriorColor = KEY_PGDN
TelestratorToggle = KEY_HOME
ToggleFastForwardMode = KEY_PERIOD
ToggleHUD = KEY_END
TogglePowerMode = KEY_X
ToggleRepairMode = KEY_C
ToggleVoiceChatMode = KEY_V CTRL
UnitAbilityButtonSlot1 = KEY_A CTRL
UnitAbilityButtonSlot2 = KEY_S CTRL
UnitAbilityButtonSlot3 = KEY_D CTRL
UnitAbilityButtonSlot4 = KEY_F CTRL
Version = 1
ViewGroup0 = KEY_KP0 ALT
ViewGroup1 = KEY_KP1 ALT
ViewGroup2 = KEY_KP2 ALT
ViewGroup3 = KEY_KP3 ALT
ViewGroup4 = KEY_KP4 ALT
ViewGroup5 = KEY_KP5 ALT
ViewGroup6 = KEY_KP6 ALT
ViewGroup7 = KEY_KP7 ALT
ViewGroup8 = KEY_KP8 ALT
ViewGroup9 = KEY_KP9 ALT
ViewHomeBase = KEY_H
ViewLastEvaEvent = KEY_SPACE
VoiceChat = KEY_V
WaypointMode = KEY_NONE ALT

Edit yours and save it using textedit, and you should be fine. Oh and of course, before doing any changes, make a back-up of the file. :D

Tadaaaa:cool:
 
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