comments on my webdesign logo

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by Cabbit, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. Cabbit macrumors 68020

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    ^_^ hi all i been doing a lil web design here and there and also photography and video advertisements. So i though to make it a lil more pro i would have my own cool logo.

    Looking to nature for the easy way out i found a feather in the garden, scanned it in to photoshop in black and wight than added a few effects to it to give the final effect witch is this.

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    Any comments?, ideas?, suggestions?

    ^_^ okies here is the achuall webpage thing form page two, its bes worked on a lot.
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  2. angelwatt Moderator emeritus

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    ooooo colorful. Looks nice. Is the gray background considered part of the logo? I think it may be interesting if the bottom feather was gray-scale and the colored one on top. Looks like you missed bottom of the bottom feather (by the tip) as far as color. May just be my eyes though. I think something more could be done with the text, but nothing is coming to mind. Perhaps giving it a texture?

    Anyways, looks good. I need to play with Photoshop more. I bought a graphic tablet and have barely used it.
     
  3. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yes the gray is part of the design it makes the colours stand out best but the design works just as well on a white background, except that makes the text ineligible.
    I agree than the font needs a lot done to it but deciding a font is hard i just used Verdana as it is a common web-safe font and i felt it emphasises the web-design part but yes is is rather dull. Any suggestions on the furthering the font.
     
  4. mariahlullaby macrumors 6502a

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    It's really nice (I love that you scanned an actual feather), but I think it resembles the CS2 suite icons a little too much. Also, you may want to incorporate something that says something about what you do: web design/photography. Do you do a lot of nature shots? Then the feather is perfect. I'd also recommend choosing a different font -- the feathers are beautiful and colorful, the font is blocky and technical.

    It's a great start!
     
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    As Italiano already mentioned, it looks like the Apache logo.
     
  7. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040

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    Yeah very Apache, I agree....

    Also with the Stroke and Pattern Overlay on the text it looks very 1990's.
     
  8. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    well it is like apache and adobe but they were both one feather and i dont really thing you can copyright a feather.
    Yes i do do a lot of nature shots hence the feather as its the most beautiful thing i have found in nature perfect in design.
    I need to try out different fonts but im not really sure what to try with text its not really me medium.
     
  9. WildPalms macrumors 6502a

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    You need to have a unique logo and any confusion with other logos will lessen your products' saleable qualities.
     
  10. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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  11. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I think it wont mater to much, adobe has moved away form the nature look and though people know apache exists my logo isn't similar enough for people to think there the same.

    ^_^ or could could look at it form the feathers that power my business, photoshop and apache lol thought its a shame photoshop is boring now.
     
  12. angelwatt Moderator emeritus

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    I like the new font you're trying.

    An idea, maybe you can use 3 feathers and make them form an N for Nanashi of course.

    If you want to look like another logo add a few more feathers and you can do the NBC logo, lol.

    like it though, on black. On white makes the yellow hard to read.
     
  13. hessdesigns macrumors member

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    Ok. I'm gonna be a little harsh here. First, the fact that most people who have replied here say that it looks like Adobe and/or Apache should tell you that it looks like Adobe and/or Apache. You stating that there is one more or less feather in the design doesn't make it different; it's a feather with a multi-color gradient over the top.

    You mention this flower, but I see no flower... was this supposed to read "feather"? Because a flower could be something a little different than the feather, as long as it's not bright orange (Illustrator).

    Of course, this is my opinion. But I would urge you to listen to your colleagues who suggest you try different visuals.
     
  14. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    i respect your opinion but feel the resemblance to adobe and apache to be little at best, adobe has used trees in there designs, feather, flowers and now just blocks of colours. There is a point when you run out of things to try in your designs that someone hasn't already came up with.

    I like the feathers they have always worked well and are great to photograph as i do take a lot of pictures of birds and there feathers.

    I have decided to keep with the feathers and the font, but i am trying out different things on the feathers to make them stand out. I was suggested before to try one in grayscale so i mite try that out.

    So far i haven't seen suggestion form anyone other than your self to try something different, nor can i think of anything more simple yet elegant as a feather. And someone else will have used that at some point to so you never really win.

    I will try different ideas perhaps even a big scale no one has used a big lizard scale before.


    Just for reference i have included the apache and adobe cs 2 feathers. Witch i must say i am totally missing the resemblance.

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    I think there is room for one more completely different feather logo. And you cant say 3 is a crowd because adobe dropped out this one.
     
  15. italiano40 macrumors 65816

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    i say Apache is coming to sue that guy with the feather logo, because that Apache logo is copyrighted for the software and i think once you copyright a logo you can use it as your logo. look at microsoft, they copyrighted "indows" and then tryed to go after that linux company "Lindows" which had to be changed to "Linspire", i am just saying be careful using the feather logo or any logo that reassemblies a company's logo
     
  16. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    i have e-mailed apache to find out there stance, i wont e-mail adobe a old icon isn't worth mailing over.
    Prompt reply form apache, it dose not infringe on there logo.
    And a quick google search feathers are used a lot but i not seen one that comes close to mine.
     
  17. angelwatt Moderator emeritus

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    Had 2 more ideas for you to contemplate,

    1) Put Nanashi Design along the outside top of the top feather, with the other text below the feathers.

    2) Put Nanashi Design on top of the top feather and the other text on top of the bottom feather, though that would require making the feathers overlap less. The fonts are "light" enough that the color of the feathers would shine through. In my head that would look neat.

    As a side note, should it be Nanashi Designs? Not sure which way would be more "proper."

    My 2¢ on the so-called similarity of your logo to others; No worries! :D
     
  18. shecky Guest

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    first of all, Adobe nor Apache own the copyright to a feather in a logo, they own the copyright to their specific feather with those specific colors and how it is used in the logo. if you want to make a logo with a feather in it that has a color gradient on it, it should not be a problem unless it looks VERY VERY close to the other logos from a legal standpoint. Yours is highly reminiscent but not VERY VERY close to these other logos.

    having said that, you need to ask yourself wether you are coming here to show your work and have everyone pat you on the back and tell you how great it is, or wether you are looking for critique on how to make something better. if you are looking for an ego boost and for us to tell you its nothing like the adobe/apache logo then i have nothing more to say. you arguing with people about what they think your logo looks like leads me to believe you are looking for affirmation, not critique.

    but giving you the benefit of the doubt, if you are looking to make something better than what you have then you need to listen to everyone who is taking the time to make a comment here: it is HIGHLY reminiscent of the Apache logo, which unto itself is a horrible logo. both the apache logo and this logo are very "lowest common denominator" with a literal image of a feather, rainbow, etc. i think what would be a lot more interesting is to try and abstract the feather into a more formal idea - a shape that SAYS feather without actually BEING a a feather would be a lot more interesting, engage the viewer in a way that captures their attention, a lot easier to work with especially in relationship to the typography, and a lot less generic. what is it about the feather that you feel works? its perfection - a perfection of structure within an organic shape? an idea of order within chaos? and idea of a clarity of purpose within the miasma of the web? you should be thinking like this and then translate your ideas visually.

    your type is not good, but you have said its not your strong suit anyway. i would suggest when in doubt, go conservative with a all cap or all lowercase sanserrif; something like a helvetica neue 35 thin, or possibly a univers 45, or maybe a trade gothic light. drop shadows, glows, bevels, etc. are the sign of an amateur and with extremely limited circumstances should be avoided.
     
  19. Zac.ice9 macrumors newbie

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    Sweet Logo

    I think all of those comments on copyright are ridiculous. Without whipping out the sarcasm, all I am going to say on the issue is that you, as an individual, are in no way competing with Apache or Adobe.... In the even that you do start to compete with them, in the same market... then you might consider the likeness of the logos... which is minimal at best.


    Now, regarding your logos. I like the white and black background ones... def. better than the gray. However, as I am sure you are aware, in the white one, it is hard to read the yellow text, while in the black one, it is hard to read the blue and red text. Either way, you should try and reduce the gray in whatever one you use. For example, in the white one, I would change your drop-shadow to a darker gray. Or, in the black one, you have some gray in the top left of the feather.

    Personal taste though.... i like the white one. it def. seems like it would lead to a much more beautiful website.


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  20. BKKbill macrumors 6502

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    Nanashi I like your last designs and think the one on the white background should give you more flexibility in placing on different coloured paper. Possibly no background colour just the feather and lettering. Also like the shadows on the feather might look good on the name. Just my two cents.
     
  21. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    ok a lot to go over this morning,

    some things i would like opinions on

    firstly should i go for design or designs

    To someone's point about why a feather, well there in abundance in my garden and about the only thing "alive" at this time of year and as i stated before i do a lot of nature photography here witch means mainly birds as almost everything else is nocturnal. My drawing skills aren't the best so i look around nature for things to use.

    All of this copyright and legal nonsense is got-ten really old really quick, my one is noting like the apache nor old adobe logos. And has wasted have the thread with nonsense.

    One thing others here do have to remember is 99% of my clients will say "adobe what is that some sort of car" and needless to say how many people outside of computers knows what apache is even if you do use a computer i know some designers that didn't know it existed never mind what logo it had, until i went looking for it i didn't know how bad it looked.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Ok back to serious stuff

    Someone mentioned moving the text somewhere, mmm were?
    Also i tried different fonts and these failed the design most of them looking to mechanical.
    And as someone suggested im going to moved the design about and perhaps add a extra element. Ill think of something i hope.
     
  22. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    i updated the white logo with all black text is it any better.
     
  23. GSMiller macrumors 68000

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    Hmm....Well if my 2¢ matter, I like it.

    I must admit I didn't think Apache when I saw it but you made a very good point about none of your clients knowing what Apache or Adobe are. It's impossible to have a logo completely your own unless you just completely make up your own symbol (AOL). I could show this to every single one of my friends and I bet not one of them would know anything about Adobe or Apache.

    I mean, look at Apple Inc and Apple Records. They both go by the name Apple and even use an Apple in their logo, be it one is a drawing and one a real apple, but they are different enough for people to know the difference between the two.

    The one major thing is that your name is like no other company, and I'm 99.999% sure yours is truly original. It's easier to change a logo than it is a name.
     
  24. Mac In School macrumors 65816

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    I have to admit, that when I first clicked on the thread, the first thing that came to mind was "did she grab that from Apache?"

    But, now that I compare the two on the same page, I think you're safe. And I think you're right about your clients not knowing about Apache.
     
  25. Cabbit thread starter macrumors 68020

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    about the apache logo i mean not to be cheekie but when you look at my logo is it now wishful thinking that it looks like the apache logo, cos well i think the apache logo looks terrible but when i first heard it was a feather my something closer to my logo did come to mind.
     

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