Complete 'Apple Studio' Package With Highest-End Mac Studio, Studio Display, and Accessories Costs Nearly $11,000

[Lioness~]

I'm gravitating towards £1999 (UK) for the M1 Max Studio plus something like a Huawei Mateview 28", 16:10 3840x2400 which seems to be going for about £500 at the moment.

Edit: £1 = ~ $1 ballpark by the time you allow for UK tax and general transatlantic gouging.

Good setup, I have been considering it. But it's plastic touchscreen, so I am uncertain for now.
As suspected Apple's Studio Display are quite expensive, but high quality I assume.
M1 Max Studio is a no brainer though.
I am uncertain about the 24 vs 32 graphic processor though.
Anyone have any input on that?

Uhm, it's only $10,417 thanks to the trade-in value of my Late 2012 iMac!

Haha, I will get something similar for my late 2013 iMac. Been serving me extremely well a long time though.
Not so much the latest 2 yrs though.

 

[theluggage]

I can not believe those who are complaining about the price of the Studio. $6,000 for all that performance is a bargain.

Maybe the people complaining are the ones that are looking for a replacement for their ~$2000-$3000 27" iMacs and finding that the nearest equivalent is now $3600?

 

[reyesmac]

I thought it would max out at $10k. Hey, remember when you could find old macs and max them out with tech that didnt even exist back then and make them perform better than the system when it was new? Yeah well thats never going to happen now. If nobody orders the 128gb ram Studio, there won't be one out in the wild to ever buy. As a mac collector I find that disappointing especially with all the lame 4gig and 8gig models floating around. They are just useless when old.
On the bright side, the entry price for an M1Max system just fell to $2,000. So if your constantly paying $3,000 on computers, you just saved some money. Everyone else can make do with the leftover M1's.

 

[Bmoreguy03]

Why are we surprised with this ?

 

[ikir]

MacRumors should stop to made articles like this. “Maxed out” is meaningless and just fuel trolls. If tomorrow Apple will give an option for 16TB SSD 7Gbps, you will say “Apple doubled the price of Mac Studio!”. having the option to choose big and fast SSD or enormous amount of unified memory is not the entry level price is just a good thing to have options.

 

[ikir]

The Studio Display isn't worth it imo - the XDR display is much better despite its high price.

This is a 27-inch 5k display as we've had them for a few years already, but wrapped in an Apple packaging - the nano-textured glass option and $500 height-ajustable stand makes this just a marketing toy.

Not sure what to think of the Mini Studio/whatever the big box is called.

Nope it is quite impossible to find a 27” 5K with this dpi, this is gold. Nobody makes a display perfect for retina like this.

 

[ikir]

I ordered the low-end Mac Studio with the M1 Max chip with 24 GPU cores. I'll use my own display instead of Apple's new Studio Display. I did not notice if the Studio Display was XDR or not. During the keynote Apple did not mention XDR for the Studio Display.

It has HDR

 

[throAU]

MacRumors should stop to made articles like this. “Maxed out” is meaningless and just fuel trolls. If tomorrow Apple will give an option for 16TB SSD 7Gbps, you will say “Apple doubled the price of Mac Studio!”. having the option to choose big and fast SSD or enormous amount of unified memory is not the entry level price is just a good thing to have options.

Yeah I remember when 4 tb of ssd was the cost of a nice car

 

[CarlJ]

This pasta maker look is getting out of hand!!

You're totally right, they shouldn't put ventilation holes out of sight on the back of the unit, they should make it hermetically sealed. It'll be quieter. And it'll run for up to 10 minutes without shutting down. Good plan.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

Still less than the base Mac Pro setup (with stand).

 

[8281]

I guess I’ll be replacing my 2013 27” iMac with a 27” monitor and a Mac Mini…

 

[RedTheReader]

I'm gravitating towards £1999 (UK) for the M1 Max Studio plus something like a Huawei Mateview 28", 16:10 3840x2400 which seems to be going for about £500 at the moment.

Edit: £1 = ~ $1 ballpark by the time you allow for UK tax and general transatlantic gouging.

I remember reading a thread on here about that monitor when it was released! As beautiful as it is, Huawei isn't allowed to sell in the US. The only ways I know of to get one here is to buy it from eBay or maybe get it forwarded from Europe. The other problem I've got is that it's 60Hz, and I'd really want my next monitor to be 120Hz. It's a great option, though!

 

[kingtj1971]

11 grand set up beats a 53 grand set up...... HHHHMMM Why is anyone complaining?

I'm not really sure if I feel this is a "good" or a "bad" value? I think that's highly subjective, based on what you were looking for and planning to do with the system. But one issue here is, this is *not* a new Mac Pro. This is a step down from one. So people comparing the "high spec" configuration of this to the most expensive Mac Pro you could buy previously aren't really comparing the same class of machines.

I will say, I still use an original 2017 iMac Pro myself and it's been a great computer. But I bought the "base" configuration of it AND got it from Micro Center, back when they were running a $1,000 off special on them. So the total price was easy to justify, just for that 5K 27" display alone.

I recently bought a nicely spec'd Macbook Pro 16" with the M1 Max in it, figuring I'd use it as my FCP X editing machine and so on. I guess that cost me in the neighborhood of $3500 after trade-in of a 2019 Macbook Pro. I felt like that was really about the most money I could justify spending on a new Mac. And as I've mentioned in other message threads here? I still find the whole M1 CPU series seems to have some "teething issues" as a whole new architecture. My new Macbook Pro will start acting weird and require a reboot if I leave it running all the time. May take a week or two for the problems to appear, but i wind up waking it from sleep to find the menu bar is gone from the top of the Finder, or my right-mouse button refuses to work anymore, or it's just extremely sluggish. It reminds me of the old Windows XP Pro experience, where it just needed a reboot every so often to keep working properly. This isn't a "deal breaker" or anything, but also makes me hesitant to drop a lot of $$$'s on another M1 series machine right now. I feel like MacOS needs more work to stop memory leaks and other problems on them, and for all we know? Some of it might only get resolved in a later generation of the hardware.

 

[bjjp2]

Holy crap! I hope my current 27" iMac lasts a long time. Was hoping to replace it but this is nuts.

 

[reyesmac]

Here is why people complain about price. Because we know it can be cheaper. I don't think many people would complain if Apple kept the same ports and case of the old Mac mini and just gave us the option to put an m1max or pro chip in there. See the problem with that? It would allow one to have access to the power without jumping through the paywall apple sets up. Now it is clear that Apple will not give you m1Max speed below $2000. Thats what stinks. Because we know that if it was put into an old mini or an old iMac it would come in below $2,000. So yes, its expensive if you always purchase computers around $1,000. Its not expensive if you already have the monitors, peripherals and such and you are used to spending $2,000 for a computer.

The problem Apple has is that it makes products so good you want to have them in your home, but these are not products for your home, they are meant to be used to create things that make you money so you can offset the price of the overpriced computer with your profits. The Mac Studio is not for most mac users, which is a shame. And Apple won't let the mini become powerful enough to take sales away from iMacs and Macbook Pro's. The Studio proves that yet again.

Apple is on a roll with its price hikes. I think they will just keep the M1's and when the M2 comes along, create new product lines that fall in between the price gaps they currently have. Don't even think about getting an M2 in a $800 mini. Ain't gonna happen for a few more years till every drop is milked from them.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I would not say that it will compete with the 7,1 2019 Mac Pro in the "$52,000.00" state, that machine is beyond anything that the Mac Studio can be.

Apple directly compared the 28 core 2019 MacPro with the M1ultra to be faster, along with the top-of-the-line GPU.
Also:

M1 Ultra Outperforms 28-Core Intel Mac Pro in First Leaked Benchmark

The first benchmark for Apple's M1 Ultra chip popped up on Geekbench following today's event, confirming that the doubled-up M1 Max is indeed...

www.macrumors.com

So I would say that you can directly compare them, no problem.
Obviously the MacPro still has its advantages, but when it comes to performance, it is outclassed by a computer somewhere around 1/10 it’s price

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Maybe the people complaining are the ones that are looking for a replacement for their ~$2000-$3000 27" iMacs and finding that the nearest equivalent is now $3600?

Even if Apple did update the 27 inch iMac, it was rumored to get a major redesign with a mini LED xdr 120hz display, a new design and A much more powerful processor.
Most definitely wasn’t going to start at $1799 anymore.

 

[macdragonfl]

At least the base configuration is not much higher than the 2018 high end mini. I bought a 3.2 6 core i7 with 16 gb memory and 512 gb ssd for $1699. For the extra memory and power I do not think the base studio is out of line.

 

[Xavier]

This seems like it's Apple's 27" iMac replacement. Quite a bit more money for the 'mid-tier' version of the Mac Studio and additional monitor.

I guess I am going to hold out for a bit to see if Apple does indeed come out with a larger iMac version.

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

It’s been said a lot on here, but that price is not bad for people who need that kid of power (not me). Actually, it’s pretty great.

And, if you need a Pro Display XDR, cool. If you need a studio display, cool. If you already have a display that works for you, cool. Or if you just need a 27” 4K for a couple hundred bucks, cool.

Again, for all this power for the people who need it, not bad.

 

[jeffhayford]

Why not just add 3x extra monitors?!

 

[Boris Bronson]

Apple doesn’t want working class people using their computers.

 

[bradman83]

The iMac was a great value but I think there's something to be said about the economy of being able to keep a display across multiple generations of computer. With an iMac you have to get a new display every time you upgrade. With a Studio setup you could theoretically keep a Studio display for 2-3-4 generations of computer it's connected to. It's a higher upfront cost now but it could be lower in the long run. Or you can select a cheaper display you want based on your needs. I don't need P3 color, so my primary monitor is a Dell 27" 4K screen with USB-C connectivity which cost $370 but still has reasonable color accuracy for my photography needs. Does it have an Apple logo or its industrial design? No. But it suits my needs and will likely outlast the 14" M1 Pro MPB I connect to it (and it will definitely outlast the work-issued HP laptop I also use it for).

 

[museic]

Apple directly compared the 28 core 2019 MacPro with the M1ultra to be faster, along with the top-of-the-line GPU.
Also:

M1 Ultra Outperforms 28-Core Intel Mac Pro in First Leaked Benchmark

The first benchmark for Apple's M1 Ultra chip popped up on Geekbench following today's event, confirming that the doubled-up M1 Max is indeed...

www.macrumors.com

So I would say that you can directly compare them, no problem.
Obviously the MacPro still has its advantages, but when it comes to performance, it is outclassed by a computer somewhere around 1/10 it’s price

They compared the CPU/GPU power, under a few synthetic benchmarks. That is but one aspect of considerations for a high end workstation.

Can you put 1.5 TB of ECC MEMORY in this new offering? No. Can it use ECC memory at all? No. The $52K Mac Pro has that included. How about UPGRADING a Video card, adding a 100GbE NIC, or adding 64TB of onboard SSD storage? Nope, nope, nope. Also, many of the programs that HPC users consume have not been (and may never be) ported to Apple silicon.

I suspect the YouTube crowd will put out a bunch of videos saying "$4K Mac Studio beats my old $15K Mac Pro", and for them they are right, because their only workload is video editing. Ask someone doing fluid dynamics or modeling scientific data and it's a totally different story. ECC is often a critical issue for them anyway; a single bit flip could invalidate days worth of work. Those folks know they NEED (not want) the top of the line, and the Studio isn't for them.

That said, I think the Studio is an interesting proposition, and actually quite well priced. Since it's a "sit on your desk" machine and has 10Gig, I think it's foolish to add more than 1TB of internal storage though.

The problem Apple has is that it makes products so good you want to have them in your home, but these are not products for your home...

That's not Apple's problem, that's our problem lol! Apple is laughing all the way to the bank!

 

[DeepIn2U]

Fastest CPU does not equal to fastes computer.

Impressive specs too bad it runs on Monterey

Guys, it runs at ‘Breathtaking Performance’
Full disclosure: all out of love stage presence and control and navigation with the backstage was perfect, I just couldn’t help think this after she used the force causing me to think “she’s not the droid I’m looking for” distraction, for me that is. Honestly I would’ve passed out on stage.

Let's see, a new computer or a few tanks of gas. Hard decision.

Bruh do you realize just how profound this is?! In less than 10 years, the majority of global new car sales will be electric, as gas prices currently skyrocket, more homes will have demand on electricity and every watt of power used will be monitored by home owners crucially until energy generation and consumption continues closer to, and until, a synergistic balance. Gas is not really going to get cheaper even at a surplus storage affects costs.

Did anybody else notice all builds of the Max Studio ONLY has 12 Month Apple Care+ option??!!