Completely annoyed at Apple

[thejadedmonkey]

Seriously, if I'd known at the time that Rosetta would be dropped in future OSX revisions and I'd known that the software was only PPC for Macs (I had no reason at the time to look into this) our purchasing decision would have been different. So, you could easily argue that we made an unfortunate purchasing decision, but at the same time, there was no message from Apple (that I am aware of) that Rosetta would be dropped in the future. If there is such a document/press release from Apple, someone please show it to me! I have contacted Apple, and of course had no response on this issue.

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And if Apple do not intend to do this, they should have made a PUBLIC statement 3+ years ago (when Leopard was released) that Rosetta was temporary, rather than making out that it was the best thing since sliced bread! I honestly think Rosetta is an amazing piece of software - why drop it? And why no OFFICIAL announcement about this? We are talking about a multi-billion pound company! Can they not afford to send out an email or press release to all users informing them of this plan? In advance?!?

That is why I am so annoyed at Apple. They seem to think that people only use their computers for Office/PS/iLife, which in my opinion is far from a complete depiction of their installed user base of 20-odd years.

And this is why Apple will never penetrate into corporations in any large way. Microsoft will bend over backwards to support programs that even the developer stopped supporting, while Apple will just pull the plug with no warning.

I wouldn't invest in upgrading your mac. It's old, probably has an nvidia card which means it's a ticking time bomb, and if you don't upgrade now, you'll just have to upgrade when it finally breaks, which leaves you with no time to plan for the transition.

Your two options are to either emulate OS X, or move to Windows. I know you can legally run OS X 10.7 on a virtual macine within 10.7, but I don't believe you are legally allowed to run a 10.6 or earlier virtual machine, on any mac environment.

 

[Quad5Ny]

I see no reason why you couldn't run a virtualized copy of SL on a MacBook Air w/4GB of memory. The speed of the SSD in the Air should make up for the low memory situation.

Where your going to really hurt is the fact that there is no support for Quartz Extreme and Core Image, it's going to make animations and moving windows around feel laggy. Then again if your using a program from 2001, it might not be that noticeable. (This might no longer be true, Vmware/Parallels/Oracle could have updated their software to include video kexts, you would have to look it up)

Your two options are to either emulate OS X, or move to Windows. I know you can legally run OS X 10.7 on a virtual macine within 10.7, but I don't believe you are legally allowed to run a 10.6 or earlier virtual machine, on any mac environment.

I believe the 10.6 Server license covers running on VM's but standard 10.6 does not. Either way I doubt Apple would do anything about it since it's running on actual Macs (and not a hackintosh).

 

[r0k]

And this is why Apple will never penetrate into corporations in any large way. Microsoft will bend over backwards to support programs that even the developer stopped supporting, while Apple will just pull the plug with no warning.

I wouldn't invest in upgrading your mac. It's old, probably has an nvidia card which means it's a ticking time bomb, and if you don't upgrade now, you'll just have to upgrade when it finally breaks, which leaves you with no time to plan for the transition.

Your two options are to either emulate OS X, or move to Windows. I know you can legally run OS X 10.7 on a virtual macine within 10.7, but I don't believe you are legally allowed to run a 10.6 or earlier virtual machine, on any mac environment.

This is part of the reason I suggested the OP "ask Steve". As Apple moves from niche to mainstream, they need to be more responsive to corporate users. I know Apple has put a tremendous effort into making iPhone work in corporate environments. We issue Blackberries but we support users with BB, iOS and Android. There are even a handful of iMacs and Mac Minis around here that our IT guys choose to ignore... for now.

 

[Quad5Ny]

This is part of the reason I suggested the OP "ask Steve". As Apple moves from niche to mainstream, they need to be more responsive to corporate users.

Very true.

I think Apple still sells 20" Core 2 Duo iMacs to schools w/ Snow Leopard, but that's hardly a solution.

 

[Merkyworks]

I see no reason why you couldn't run a virtualized copy of SL on a MacBook Air w/4GB of memory. The speed of the SSD in the Air should make up for the low memory situation.

Where your going to really hurt is the fact that there is no support for Quartz Extreme and Core Image, it's going to make animations and moving windows around feel laggy. Then again if your using a program from 2001, it might not be that noticeable. (This might no longer be true, Vmware/Parallels/Oracle could have updated their software to include video kexts, you would have to look it up)



I believe the 10.6 Server license covers running on VM's but standard 10.6 does not. Either way I doubt Apple would do anything about it since it's running on actual Macs (and not a hackintosh).

while this is a very good option i have to step back and say WTF apple. this is a great example of why not supporting PPC programs is BS, so someone upgrades to your new shinny OS (Lion) and in doing so the OS (which is supposed to be a improvement from the old) cant handle old older programs, so not only do you spend $30 on the new OS, you then have to spend $$ on VM software and then more $$ for a copy of SL server. then there is the fact that if you had an old mac and deiced to spend your hard earned $$ and buying a new mac you cant do what the old mac did, how does that make since? or even better, you have mac with apple care and it dies so apple replaces it with a new mac that guess what wont be able to use programs that the old mac did. what are you thinking apple!?

 

[Spectrum]

or even better, you have mac with apple care and it dies so apple replaces it with a new mac that guess what wont be able to use programs that the old mac did. what are you thinking apple!?

Well this already kind of happened to me once. A PowerBook G4 screen died and they could no longer source a replacement, so I ended up with - get this: a 17" MBPro because at the time that was the only machine that still came with a matte screen (18 months ago). Of course, the downside of the process was that all the Power PC apps (which was everything on it!) had to run via Rosetta. But at least they ran! If the same happened now, I would literally be UNABLE to run any of the software even though I had an AppleCare warranty!