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Except it shows all the time, of course. I certainly don't allow "Hey Siri" on my device, and there's the slider for Siri in "Allow Access When Locked", right where it's supposed to be. Toggling it on doesn't enable "Hey Siri", either.

On the 7 and later, you don't (supposedly) have to be plugged into power to use "Hey Siri", but that shouldn't change where and when the option(s) show up in the UI.
It in my iPad.
 
Man, you’ve really got to have some dedication to figure out something like that. To have each item, in that specific sequence.... jeez.
 
What’s with the pen tapping?

I think it's to avoid any possibility of Touch ID being involved.

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I think there's a way bigger issue here - it seems to me you shouldn't be able to do much when your phone is ringing before you authenticate.

Seems to me the process should be something like - if your phone is ringing, you can only answer or decline. If you answer, you wouldn't hear the other person and they wouldn't hear you - instead Siri would announce to both of you that you still need to authenticate.

All of those other options shouldn't be there prior to you authenticating.
 
I think there’s something missing here. “Hey Siri” only activates to the user who sets it up. A person can’t activate that feature as described in the write up. Or he is just describing how to bypas something on his own iPhone. An issue but not such a big deal...

Actually, no; well at least in iOS 11 days. I had a friend who observed me do the "Hey Siri" cmd to my nearby iPad Pro to perform a Homekit command. He then tried yelling out "Hey Siri" and after just a couple tries, my iPad responded to him. I was really surprised. Hope Apple has improved the voice analysis since then. Said friend moved away so it's not like I can just ask him to try it again to test if it's better.
 
"convoluted" and "complicated" to say the least

And requires physical access to the phone. Sorry but if you lose physical access to your phone you have bigger issues than whether someone knows and can successfully pull off a trick like this. Not to mention that you can lost mode your phone if you were smart enough to have iCloud signed in without seconds and a computer or another iPhone. No one can do jack on a phone in lost mode expect erase it in recovery mode (removing all your private data) and putting it in activation lock so it’s only good for parts (not even the managers at an apple store or the staff at apple care can remove a lock when the phone is in lost mode)
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Obviously someone with to much time on there hands. Probably be a fix out for that soon

Given that it’s been announced yeah. I’m fairly sure Apple has staff combing sites like this and reddit for these kinds of reports so they can nip it before it’s ever actually an issue
 
Here's a basic one. If Control Center is enabled on the lock screen, I can put your phone into airplane mode when I steal it.
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So you admit to being an iPhone thief, and you live near me? ;)
 
It doesn’t matter, if that person was smart and enabled all the security features with the phone and iCloud you’ve basically stole a paperweight anyway

It might not matter to YOU... but to many, many people (me included!) it would be wonderful to be able to track & retrieve a stolen phone b/c of a thief’s inability to block me from using the feature with a trivial action.
 
So is the "security" protecting your photos just the GUI? I'm sorry, but a GUI glitch allowing access is some Windows 98 type of security flaw, and it indicates a much worse problem beneath. This means that the contacts and photos are somehow not protected by the encryption in certain cases, and likely other data too.

Big props to this guy for discovering it, especially if it's true he's just a taxi driver and not a professional hacker or engineer.
 
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Why in the world do people have Siri enabled on the lock screen in the first place? The only thing worse would be the truly clueless who enable control center on the lock screen.

That my friend has an easy explanation (just one of them), if you use Siri for home automation, otherwise it won't be convenient.
Another one is when you are busy, driving for instance.
 
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Fix one thing, break two others...

Vulnerability in software has always been a problem. There are people who have dedicated their lives to exploit and destroy.
 
And this is why I completely turned off Siri. These breaches always require Siri.
 
It might not matter to YOU... but to many, many people (me included!) it would be wonderful to be able to track & retrieve a stolen phone b/c of a thief’s inability to block me from using the feature with a trivial action.

Well it’s a problem solved with Face ID. Won’t show control centre unless you look at the phone if it’s turned on in settings, that’s how i have it set, don’t even notice it’s off
 
Well it’s a problem solved with Face ID. Won’t show control centre unless you look at the phone if it’s turned on in settings, that’s how i have it set, don’t even notice it’s off

Yeah. The last issue is powering the phone off.
Sadly, I’m speaking from experience. =/
I didn’t have insurance on my iPhone X b/c I thought nobody would be stupid enough to steal an unusable phone.
I left it at a side smoking area at my work (300+ employees). I realized it about 5 minutes later & returned... it wasn’t there so I called it.
It had already been shut off and I ended up having to pay off the remaining $650 I owed on it, so I can order a XR... but without the ability to sell it & recoup the cost of a new phone.
Needless to say- that stung!
I wish there was a preventative measure for this type of instance.
 
Yeah. The last issue is powering the phone off.
Sadly, I’m speaking from experience. =/
I didn’t have insurance on my iPhone X b/c I thought nobody would be stupid enough to steal an unusable phone.
I left it at a side smoking area at my work (300+ employees). I realized it about 5 minutes later & returned... it wasn’t there so I called it.
It had already been shut off and I ended up having to pay off the remaining $650 I owed on it, so I can order a XR... but without the ability to sell it & recoup the cost of a new phone.
Needless to say- that stung!
I wish there was a preventative measure for this type of instance.
Did you put the phone in lost mode and was your phone backed up?
 
Yeah. The last issue is powering the phone off.
Sadly, I’m speaking from experience. =/
I didn’t have insurance on my iPhone X b/c I thought nobody would be stupid enough to steal an unusable phone.
I left it at a side smoking area at my work (300+ employees). I realized it about 5 minutes later & returned... it wasn’t there so I called it.
It had already been shut off and I ended up having to pay off the remaining $650 I owed on it, so I can order a XR... but without the ability to sell it & recoup the cost of a new phone.
Needless to say- that stung!
I wish there was a preventative measure for this type of instance.

I mean he’d have to turn it on eventually, right? If you requested find my iphone to lock it in lost mode wouldn’t it have bricked when they turned it on?
 
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I mean he’d have to turn it on eventually, right? If you requested find my iphone to lock it in lost mode wouldn’t it have bricked when they turned it on?
Exactly. The point is the phone is unusable no matter what the thief does. Apple's put a lot of effort into this.

There could be vulnerabilities. Say there's a known way to break in, but only if the phone hasn't been turned off. I know it enters some locked-down state it maintains until you first enter your passcode. And there's the USB lock too. In that case only, the thief would want to put it into airplane mode (or shield its RF) but not turn it off.
 
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