Yeah, 895 or 1095? Not a huge difference. If people are willing to pay $500 to 900 for an Android phone that will never get updated then 1100 for a phone with significantly more new tech and they will Get a full update with hungreds of new features for the next 4 years is a bargain.
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Component Demand for iPhone X Said to Be Weakening as Production Yield Rates Improve
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Better, bigger and edge to edge screen, better sound (and stereo), better cameras, portrait mode in back and front camera, wireless and fast charging, much more battery life... but your SE runs ios11. Okay... same experience, yes... ♂️
Apple never predicted a "super cycle phone", that non-sense was on the Steve Jobs worshiping, gosh we have a new campus, tenth anniversary iPhone brigade.
Before the year is over? This year? 2017? Surely you meant 2018. Better odds on the Falcons winning the NFC South this season.
1st: it would 100% be inconsistent with current price points. If they lower the X price then they have to lower the price of every phone below it or discontinue them. 2nd: the only reason to lower prices is because it's not selling and there is a backlog of inventory. Clearly Apple isn't able to get production match up yet with demand. 3rd: it would wreck Apple's stock price.
Now maybe the 2018 iPhone X will have a lower price to make way for X+ pricing. That is possible, but it won't be $849. Maybe $899 or $949. And possible the 2017 iPhone X will be cut to $849 when the 2018 X comes out, but not until.
Pretty much this.
I have a 6S and while I’ve been impressed with the X the more I have seen it (a co-worker just got his), it just doesn’t do anything that makes me really see a major improvement in what I do. I don’t find myself wanting for more speed on my phone—which is not to say I wouldn’t notice or appreciate a bump but rather that I don’t feel inhibited by the current device.
And this isn’t a knock on innovation either. It’s the reality of a mature product. The improvements from generation to generation used to feel more drastic. Now they feel more iterative, but beyond that we’ve passed a certain threshold where these devices are solid. I hear people cry about “something revolutionary” but basically no one has any idea what.
I doubt I’ll swap out this phone until it dies or I use it to replace a family member’s and upgrade then.
At this point the only device I can see Apple releasing that I would buy purely out of want would be a phone the size of the SE with the display of the X (i.e. no home button). I like the form factor of the 6 okay, but still prefer the smaller 5S. I would have picked up and SE if not for the first gen TouchID.
Apple will not do that. The only time you will see a price drop from Apple for the iPhone X, is when the next version of the iPhone X launches in 2018, then they will reduce the price point of the iPhone X at that time.
It's the same core experience.
Phone calls, texts, emails, social media, so I am not sure what you’re saying? Your response is laughable at best LMFAO!
Another reason I opted for a 6S instead of the SE. Force Touch is one of those things I was very “meh” about when it was announced and came to really like after using it even just a little. (Turning the keyboard into a trackpad is killer.)
Your comment almost makes sense... until you realize everything the X has that the old, outdated, slower toy of a phone SE doesn’t have.
I think the price is the major reason. The official price in my country (within EU) together with VAT for 256GB version is reaching ~USD1700 which is insane.. What a bargain
How is it outdated and slower? To you maybe, but not others. Again, I am not sure how upgrading your phone makes a difference to making phone calls and sending text messages? I realised from your first that you make no sense whatsoever. If I continue with responding to your posts, I’ll end up like a Zombie.
No way. Maybe next year’s iPhone X successor will be lower after several months of stagnant, less than expected X sales. Maybe like $100 less knowing Apple, starting at $899 for the 64GB, $999 for a new 128GB capacity and $1,099 for the 256GB (only $50 less). Add $100 for each capacity on the Plus models of the X successor, maxing out at $1,199 for the 256GB Plus model.
Sorry, Swiss dude. Given Apple's strong negotiating posture, in what universe do you expect Apple to order quantities relative to yield?
No siree! Apple most certainly would expect the manufacturer to assume bad production yields, while delivering nothing less than error-free product, in accordance with Apple-contractual specifications.
Do not forget: these are the same guys that cajoled GT Advance, their failed sapphire supplier, to "put on big boy pants" while negotiating unfavorable production T&Cs.
[QUOTE="My SE runs the same IOS at 1/3 the cost.[/QUOTE]
Did you know that "Coke Life" has the same flavor as regular Coke with 1/3 less sugar? Same coke though, right? that's why everyone is buying "Coke Life" now! /s
The SE is not even close to the X.
Did you know that "Coke Life" has the same flavor as regular Coke with 1/3 less sugar? Same coke though, right? that's why everyone is buying "Coke Life" now! /s
The SE is not even close to the X.
I am not talking about the yield loss from manufacturers. I am talking about the yield loss during the production / assembly of the iPhone. I see that it was not very clear in my original comment.
A lot of "rubbish" iPhones were pressumably produced during the first weeks of production. 300'000 people work on the assembly line for the iPhone X. That is a lot of people who have to get used to the new and even more fragile components.
Even if it's tested exentesively during the pre-production phase, Foxconn would never be able to hold the yield loss low, as there is another pressure when the real production goes live and people have to get used to it. All the reports indicated that the same thing: high yield loss during assembly of the iPhone, so it's natural to assume, that Apple ordered more to account for that.
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Well, that is not entirely true.
Most people do not pay the full amount up front. They either get a discount in combination with a carrier contract or pay it monthly, and are willing to spend that. And as it says in the report above, the demand has not weakened and will be as strong in 2018 as it is now.
And reports like that have been made every year for every iPhone, which even has lead Apple to the statement that we should not link iPhone demand to supply chain rumors.
Furthermore, We are talking about the orders in 2018 Q1. In China everything closes down for nearly a month for the Lunar New Year. That would also go hand in hand with the 30% lower order quantity compared to 2017 Q4.
And lastly, and probably most importantly: There are always fewer shipments in Q1 than in the holiday period.
So for component orders to be lower is really not a surprise when you look at it that way.