I just formatted my hard drive and reinstalled a fresh copy of Tiger. Software update ran, everything installed except DVD Player, which failed. It told me to restart, so I did. Now when I try to boot, it just hangs at the Apple logo with the spinner spinning and spinning... I've tried resetting the SMU, the PRAM and booting from my Tiger install DVD again. None of them have worked. If anyone has any ideas I'd very much appreciate hearing them, until I get my baby working again I'm stuck with using a Windows 98 box over a dial-up connection. EDIT: ok, managed to get it booted to the DVD, nuked everything and reinstalled. so far so good, but I'm running Software update now so we'll see what happens when I restart. wish me luck. I just noticed that I capitalize the first letter of sentences when I'm using an unfamiliar keyboard but not with my trusty milk-laced Apple keyboard. bizarre.