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An OLED bar gimmick doesn't seem very helpful when the MBP is ages behind in CPU and GPU performance. I understand in the post PC world that machines like the MBP take on a different role, but they are still excellent development platform machines. Apple, please provide: (1) current CPU choices, skylake if today and kaby lake if in Q3, (2) SDXC slot for added storage - local storage is still important for development, (3) more competitive pricing - it gets more difficult over time to justify MBP hardware pricing as the rest of the market gets better, cheaper, faster, and (4) don't even think about going to a single USB-C port - many of us use wired networks in the office and external monitors, limiting ports sux. Of course lighter and better battery life are nice, but current battery life is livable as is the current heft and I would gladly trade improvements in these areas with improvements listed above.


I think we will see mobile Xeon skylake and 64GB ram as an option for build to order MBP, along with smaller bezels gaining a screen inch on same sized MBPs over the current model.
I don't think they will eliminate SDXC or HDMI, and I am confident that there will be 4 USB-C/ TB-3 ports.
I think they may even bring a 4G connection on an Apple Sim ready for mobile internet where there is no Wifi.
 
Obvious outrages in a few more recent posts.
I still use my MacBook Air 11 " and I am happy with it.
I will not accept a laptop with zero USB-A port, as this will break ALL HDD I have right now.
God damn, why they just want to break those which works perfectly fine, especially the old one is not anywhere worse than newer one! Just for innovation and s**t moving forward, we need to sacrifice decades of accumulation and start anew?!
I don't get it and never will.
 
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Obvious outrages in a few more recent posts.
I still use my MacBook Air 11 " and I am happy with it.
I will not accept a laptop with zero USB-A port, as this will break ALL HDD I have right now.
God damn, why they just want to break those which works perfectly fine, especially the old one is not anywhere worse than newer one! Just for innovation and s**t moving forward, we need to sacrifice decades of accumulation and start anew?!
I don't get it and never will.

I think I'll get a single USB C to USB A adapter, and a single TB3 to gigabit ethernet adapter. But I'm not bothered about old HDDs, as most of these are attached to my iMac.
 
But... Where's the escape button?
There is probably a gesture to bring up the original function keys, along with a gesture for media keys.
If it is gesture based in a similar manner to the trackpad preferences, which would be sensible, then it should be programmable for what gesture brings up which set of hotkeys, and additionally which fingerprint brings up which group of hotkeys.

Personally, I'd like to set a specific finger to bring up a programmed group of keys that i've set up.
As there would be five fingerprints, I'd have the chance to setup five different groups of keys.
This maybe as simple as e.g. middle finger brings up the dock on the touchbar, one for media keys, one for common shortcuts, one for application interface, one for utilities.
[doublepost=1468669118][/doublepost]Realistically, there is 8 main gestures of fingers swiped left or right, then 8 secondary gestures of fingers swiped up or down, 2 likely sideways thumb and finger gestures (pinch in / out sideways), then 5 possible fingerprints to switch to a group of hotkeys each.
So with 18 likely gestures and 5 possible fingerprint actions, I'd say that the future of the OLED touchbar is looking better than most would expect.

I would also expect that this touchbar would probably come to a future Apple keyboard, which I would like to see integrated with full numeric keypad and larger touchpad at the end, as it would save on overall space.
This could be done with the wired keyboard and the bluetooth keyboard with little effort, and would be worth it.
 
If I'm developing, I don't want to do a gesture to bring the escape key... Can't believe it will not have a esc key..

I'm a Web developer and I use all sorts of gestures, macros, and custom shortcuts to boost my productivity. That said, the ESC key is one of the keys that I've tried to remap before and it messes me up badly every time I think I can wean myself off of it.
 
I'm a Web developer and I use all sorts of gestures, macros, and custom shortcuts to boost my productivity. That said, the ESC key is one of the keys that I've tried to remap before and it messes me up badly every time I think I can wean myself off of it.

It could be as simple as swiping down one finger from the left corner presses the ESC key once.
Or you could swipe two fingers down from the left corner for force quit. It's your call how you setup the touchbar.

As this should resemble a programmable version of the trackpad preference where you can choose which finger gestures do what with (x) fingers, then it should be pretty simple to setup either a gesture or a fingerprint response.

I would think that either display the dock, or application switching slider, or documents slider, or application mini interface, or siri, or even terminal in the touchbar would really be fantastic.
 
I will make escape gesture the middle finger if this is the case.

Wouldn't it be great if they did come out with a keyboard that could be augmented with motion sensing for additional non-touch gestures? Maybe Microsoft will adapt their Kinect technology to extend a normal keyboard's functionality and let you have your own custom gestures. I would love to have some emotionally satisfying gesture like a middle finger to abort the *#&$#@ error prompt that keeps coming up.

Yep, happiness is being able to flip the bird at your computer and having it mean something.
 
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Oh, man, I didn't even notice the missing escape key.... Goodbye to Mac as the default platform for web developers when you can't use vim on its keyboard any more!

Could be better: people will be forced to ^[ instead of reaching up there.

Or better yet, maybe they'll ditch the caps lock key. Older layouts were better for programmers:
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I can't decide whether a touch bar is just a gimmick really.

Are there any real advantages over traditional keys or does it just to seem cool? If you could use it as top row of keys with labels to create custom keys layouts for specific softwares, it could be really useful though. It could also just be a component that is going to break or fail sooner or later.

Any thoughts on potential useful ideas for the touch bar?
 
I'd love to be able to bring in the dock to the touch bar, or even just have a terminal in the touch bar.
Some widgets similar to how they are properly done on Android would be nice, half hearted iPhone style widgets would not work well.

I'd love to be able to run different sets of widgets depending on which finger I scan, or which combination of gestures I make on the touchbar.
Additionally having it run a group of app icons similar to the launchpad folders/ classic easy finder would be awesome and really help make mac versatile and friendly for newcomers and retirees.

As I've stated above, there's 18 possible gestures and 5 possible fingerprints. Plus now it's likely that the fingerprints could go in both vertical directions also. So maybe 28 possible groups of ways that the touchbar and fingerprint scanner act.
And there is room to make widgets living in the touchbar as a modern successor to the dashboard, but not interrupting the main screen in a space.
Which I suppose also allows for mission control to be more adaptable through the touchbar, along with other common system preferences.
We do know from Apple's references that they will have battery life indicators as a part of the touchbar, along with other important things, and it's highly likely that the touchbar will get third party developers refreshing their apps for it.

If it's just half as good as I reckon it can be, I think I'll have to organise porting my apps to mac sooner than I've planned just to use the dream interface touchbar for my apps on my macbook pro next year.
I could definitely see my friends and family members getting a new macbook pro just to run my apps with the touchbar, along with all the other cool apps that are going to come from other developers making use of this interesting feature.

If it's Kabylake, 4 x USB 3.1/TB3 & oled touchbar/touch ID open to new interface and interaction, then that's 90% of what I want new to macbook pro. On that basis, I'm ready to wait for it.
 
Please, give us back what you have suppressed since the 2012 version of MBP and leave these stupids "innovations" for MS-Windows ! I can't believe there exist people happy with these smokescreens !
 
Please, give us back what you have suppressed since the 2012 version of MBP and leave these stupids "innovations" for MS-Windows ! I can't believe there exist people happy with these smokescreens !
What has, in your opinion, been suppressed since 2012, and what are the smokescreens of innovations you're referring to?
 
Love it!!!
Why ? Tell us what makes you so enthousiastic with this unimportant gadget ! I feel Apple relies on gadgets to hide their incapacity to maintain and develop a proper MBP, that's the reality...
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What has, in your opinion, been suppressed since 2012, and what are the smokescreens of innovations you're referring to?

Save as... for example and the huge amount of features that made the MBP, an exceptional machine. Also, to work on small screens is something I never will be satisfied with. But this is only my opinion, apparently shared by many users here...
 
Why ? Tell us what makes you so enthousiastic with this unimportant gadget ! I feel Apple relies on gadgets to hide their incapacity to maintain and develop a proper MBP, that's the reality...
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Save as... for example and the huge amount of features that made the MBP, an exceptional machine. Also, to work on small screens is something I never will be satisfied with. But this is only my opinion, apparently shared by many users here...

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