I was holding out buying an ipod touch until the new models were released as I was one of those idiots who believed the hype about the cameras! now I'm a little underwhelmed and thinking I might just go for an 8 GB refurb for $149 from the Apple store. I've never bought a refurbished product before - are they really 'like new'? if it will come covered in scratches and break the day after the warranty expires, I'd rather just pay the extra $50 for a new one. please advise! Also, probably a stupid question but are the refurbs available in store or only online?