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Defever

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Is it possible to connect a Dell U2723QE to a Mac Studio.(USB-C to thunderbolt). The dell monitor provides 90 W power through this cable but the Mac Studio has its own power supply. There is no need for charging the Mac Studio as it is the case with a Macbook. Is there a risk to damage the thunderbolt port?
And would this monitor 4K give sharp text at a 2560x1440 resolution?
 
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Is there a risk to damage the thunderbolt port?

No. It's a "smart connector" and will only try and charge the computer if the computer asks for it.

And would this monitor 4K give sharp text at a 2560x1440 resolution?

NB: I'm going to assume you. meant U3223 - which would be a 32" display and not U2723 which would be 27". If there really is a 23" version I'll be right out :)



Can't speak for that particular display - but for a 4k, 16:9 display in general:

(NB: One day I'll have a version of this spiel with which I'm happy so I can just link to it... so don't worry too much if it's TLDNR. Trouble is, complicated subject is complicated...)

MacOS will choose a default "best for display mode" (probable "1920x1080") but if you go into Display Settings and click on "Scaled" you'll get a choice of alternatives. It's important to understand that the "resolution" figures you see in "Display Settings" for a 4k or better display aren't really the "resolution" and don't have the same meaning as they would for an old-school low res display. Unless you jump through hoops to get the advanced choices all the modes will put the display itself into native 3840x2160 and none of them will give the same horrible mush that you'd get running a lower-resolution display in anything other than native mode.

"1920x1080" actually means "3840x2160" (native) but with a double-sized User Interface (a.k.a. HiDPI mode) - that is to say the system fonts, icons, menus, window furniture, default window sizes etc. will be displayed at double size (and application zoom/page size settings interpreted accordingly). Everything will be perfectly sharp and detailed, using full 4k resolution (apart from a few very old, pre-retina-display apps, which may look fuzzy) but those icons and menus will be a bit on the large side on a 32" screen.

"3840x2160" - on the other end of the scale - is the same, native, resolutions but without the HiDPI mode. This should be quite usable on a 32" display if your eyeballs are a few decades younger than mine - but it's certainly too small and fiddly for most on a 27" display. I can just about cope with it for short periods on a 28" display.

Note that - although you'll find them under "Scaled" in the dialog, the two modes above are not the dreaded "(fractional) Scaled modes". Those are:

"2560x1440" which is actually done by creating a virtual "5120x2880" screen (in HiDPI mode) - i.e. 5k - which then gets downsampled to the display's native 3840x2160. The result is that - on a 27" display - you would get the same physical "UI size" as the default on a 27" iMac - and with far more detail than you'd get on an old school, non-retina 1440p display. The UI size is still probably a bit big for a 32" display - so there are "3008x1692" and "3360x1890" modes that give you progressively smaller UI sizes and may be better on a 32" display.

There are 2 "problems" with these modes. First, as Apple will warn you if you select them, "Using a scaled mode may affect performance" - and they do put an extra load on the GPU. However, you get the same warning on a 10-year-old MacBook air with Intel integrated graphics - I don't think the M1 Max is going to break a sweat.

Second, because 1 pixel in the "virtual screen" no longer corresponds to an exact number of pixels on the physical screen, everything has a slightly "soft focus" look and if you drag something slowly, pixel by pixel it will move slightly unevenly, or "shimmer".

Opinion seems divided on whether that is completely irrelevant unless you habitually climb up on your desk with a jeweller's loupe and do endless A/B comparisons with a Pro XDR display - or if it is completely unusable, will make your eyeballs bleed and your hair fall out. Ultimately, I tend towards the first point of view, but your mileage may vary, especially if you habitually lean in to the screen while trying to make pixel-perfect adjustments to graphics. It will be more noticeable if you have a 32" display but don't compensate by moving it further away.

...but, of course, you can always put up with the slightly big icons and dialogs in "1920x1080" mode and just set the zoom/scale/font size in your App to "actual pixels" or whatever - especially if you auto-hide the dock and menu bar, or work in full screen mode -and there's no standard for how big/small toolbars etc. are in third party apps.

Ultimately, yes, MacOS is optimised for ~220ppi, which means 5k@27" and 6k@32" and you'll get the best results with a Studio Display or Pro Display XDR... at $1600 or $5000 respectively (plus extra for a decent stand)... However, 4k displays are a perfectly good compromise for many people's needs. If your main requirement is lots of screen estate for code, spreadsheets etc. then you can get multiple 4k displays for the price of a single 5k/6k one.
 
Thank you very much for this useful info. I ordered the U2723QE
 
I bought the monitor but couldn't get picture. The screen remains black. I switched with the joystick on the rear from HDMI to USB-C90W but it didn't help. The usbC cable waas connected to a thunderbolt port on the rear. After a few tries the monitor is dead and I had to send it back. The monitor was defect or difficult to set up. I don't know.
 
I bought the monitor but couldn't get picture. The screen remains black. I switched with the joystick on the rear from HDMI to USB-C90W but it didn't help. The usbC cable waas connected to a thunderbolt port on the rear. After a few tries the monitor is dead and I had to send it back. The monitor was defect or difficult to set up. I don't know.
Sorry to hear that. As I said, I don't know that particular monitor, but in most cases you'll get a "searching for signal" or some sort of on-screen display, not a blank screen, so it may have been DOA.

It should work with Macs, since it has been reviewed on MacRumors:


Personally - I'm using a Huawei MateView with my Studio and it's working out really well & tempted to get a second one. Not available in some countries though (but let's not derail this thread on that subject) - not quite the same picture quality league as Apple iMac/Studio Display but the 3:2 aspect ratio is great.

Also, an old (and cheap at the time) Dell SQ2817Q 4k 28" which works perfectly - nice sharp text, not-so-wonderful colour.
 
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