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Considering legal action... Just because I can.
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Yes, you definitely should sue Apple over something they have no responsibility over.
You got 5 years of IOS support, you should be thanking Apple, not suing them.
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I have an iPad mini 1 that is pretty much useless now. I'm not looking to sue anybody but it does bum me out. If Apple allowed downgrading to earlier ios then my ipm1 would be great.
No, it wouldn't.
It would be running an unsupported OS with many security flaws and unable to run most of the apps in the App Store.
I call BS.
Exhibit A: Has an iPad II (2?) and somehow updated it to iOS 8 recently? Despite the fact that iOS 8 hasn't been offered in more than a year?
Exhibit B: Claims to have purchased an iPad Air because of the poor performance of the iPad 2, yet also claims to have written the op on the iPad 2 with auto capitalization and punctuation turned off. Why not use the iPad Air to type out the rant?
Exhibit A: Has an iPad II (2?) and somehow updated it to iOS 8 recently? Despite the fact that iOS 8 hasn't been offered in more than a year?
Exhibit B: Claims to have purchased an iPad Air because of the poor performance of the iPad 2, yet also claims to have written the op on the iPad 2 with auto capitalization and punctuation turned off. Why not use the iPad Air to type out the rant?
I support this. My iPad Air is not usable after being nagged to install iOS 10 multiple times a day. Not that iOS 9 ran much faster. If you accidentally click to upgrade, it is all over... no going back. How can Apple keep you from using the OS you paid for to begin with? This alone should be worth legal action.
My iPad Air 1 is terribly slow now and I find it impossible to use due to the slow speed. Apple broke their product and they won't let you downgrade to a more usable OS.
I can relate to this .... if an ipad 2 worked 4 years ago why not now?
apple should not make an update and "push" you to update if your ipad is then more or less useless.
same problem every time ...maybe apple should leave out the "problem" models in update? or make a do it your self update (no notification on oldest models) you should press the search for update yourself and a notification saying your device may be slow.
if this was a car how would people then react... I can completely understand this... what other product is this allowed?
mention one other product where planned obsolessence is so planned?
apple should not make an update and "push" you to update if your ipad is then more or less useless.
same problem every time ...maybe apple should leave out the "problem" models in update? or make a do it your self update (no notification on oldest models) you should press the search for update yourself and a notification saying your device may be slow.
if this was a car how would people then react... I can completely understand this... what other product is this allowed?
mention one other product where planned obsolessence is so planned?
My iPad 2 has given me years of pleasure. It still works pretty damn good under 9.3. Yeah it's a bit slow. It crashes occasionally. On the other hand I spend a couple of hours per day on Facebook. Another hour browsing websites, and several hours a week playing games (mostly asphalt 8 and tapped out). All with acceptable performance for a 5 year old iPad. You're way the hell past your warranty, your lawyers would be just taking your money if they were to try to sue Apple over this nonsense. If it doesn't perform up to your needs anymore, it's time to replace it. I think I can live with mine for another 2 years.
Good luck.
Good luck.
to OP:
I doubt you can prove in court that they have malicious intent. Proving intent is an extremely difficult thing. Do you have proof? Do you plan to hire expensive Private Investigators that can prove Apple is guilty of malicious conspiratorial intent? I doubt it.
The best you can do is to have a judge rule that the nagging update reminders are incredibly stupid and constitute detrimental harassment toward the customer. I agree. Apple should allow us to make those stupid update reminders go away. Maybe it will take a court's ruling to force Apple to make those damn (harassing) update reminders to go away.
I doubt you can prove in court that they have malicious intent. Proving intent is an extremely difficult thing. Do you have proof? Do you plan to hire expensive Private Investigators that can prove Apple is guilty of malicious conspiratorial intent? I doubt it.
The best you can do is to have a judge rule that the nagging update reminders are incredibly stupid and constitute detrimental harassment toward the customer. I agree. Apple should allow us to make those stupid update reminders go away. Maybe it will take a court's ruling to force Apple to make those damn (harassing) update reminders to go away.
I'm running various old operating systems and old software on my Macs with no troubles, so yes, it is possible and yes, Apple should allow us to downgrade iOS on our devices anytime we want to.
Because there is no possibility to downgrade, Apple should be a bit more conservative in deciding which devices can update... paying a little extra care to performance and stability. The are those who claim that people will complain about not being able to upgrade, but historically those complaining about having the option far outnumber those complaining about not having the option.
"Just don't upgrade" is not a practical option when Apple nags multiple times a day with a pop-up notification that an update is available for iOS and... should you need to refresh the device (not from a backup) the only option is to use the last available/supported version of iOS.
If Apple would simply allow users to downgrade to a previous version of iOS with the understanding that (A) it won't receive support and (B) Some apps won't be able to run because they require a newer version of iOS, then I think it would satisfy virtually everyone (except those who don't want others to have a choice).
"Just don't upgrade" is not a practical option when Apple nags multiple times a day with a pop-up notification that an update is available for iOS and... should you need to refresh the device (not from a backup) the only option is to use the last available/supported version of iOS.
If Apple would simply allow users to downgrade to a previous version of iOS with the understanding that (A) it won't receive support and (B) Some apps won't be able to run because they require a newer version of iOS, then I think it would satisfy virtually everyone (except those who don't want others to have a choice).
I didn't say it wouldn't be possible, I said It would be running an unsupported OS with many security flaws and unable to run most of the apps in the App Store.
Or are you asking Apple and Apps developers to carrying on supporting older versions of iOS?
That is a different point altogether.
Downgrading the version of iOS without support would be pointless and it certainly would not make an old iPad "great again".
If I can afford to keep a lawyer on retainer and have him send out annoying letters for kicks and giggles whenever the mood tickles my fancy, I could probably also afford a new (or even refurbished) iPad Air 2. Not saying that's what the OP should do of course, but that's what I would do. Just sayin'.
OP is not coming back. Didn't get the support he was hoping for.
Why in the world do mods allow ridiculous threads like this? If OP is stuck on an iPad 2, he probably doesn't have the money for a lawsuit. These forums have been going downhill...
Yes, let's call on the mods to crack down on even more open discourse than they already do.
PLEASE, DEAR LEADER-MODS. SILENCE US.
Yes, let's call on the mods to crack down on even more open discourse than they already do.
PLEASE, DEAR LEADER-MODS. SILENCE US.
This isn't open discourse. This is a guy being openly mocked for making stupid claims.
So are you suggesting that we coddle him, rather than give him the ridicule he's earned? Should we shield him from being told he's wrong and acting like a fool? What good does that do? What progress is made?
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